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Old 03-25-2009, 10:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I was reading some time ago about this theory, Winstrol would prevent the tren from converting to progesterone, because benefit may be its ability to antagonize or block progesterone from binding to receptors

And So I think adding winstrol to Spawn cycle for cutting purposes and prevent gyno.

Do you think winny works well for to prevent progesterone based gyno ? any experience?

Maybe too toxic cycle for liver ?

I read in somewhere "The use of Winstrol is also an effective method of controlling progesterone-induced gyno, as it is anti-progestagenic. An effective dose appears to be in the vicinity of 50mg eod (depot) or 30 to 35mg/day (tabs) although this dose may require increasing depending on the doses being employed in the stack."
 



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Old 03-25-2009, 10:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Winny should have relatively ZERO effect on gyno.

If you get gyno symptoms from spawn i'd go with caber since i remember that one of the compounds in spawn is a 19-nor.

Also Winny isn't used for cutting. You already should have a low bodyfat (sub 10) before taking winny.
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Old 03-25-2009, 11:06 PM   #3 (permalink)
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looked at the content of spawn no 19 nor compound in there.
like zack said winny does not convert, nor will it prevent progesterone from my knowledge.

Letro can lower progesterone along with estrogen.


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Trenbolones chemical structure makes it resistant to the aromatize enzyme (conversion to estrogen) thus absolutely no percentage of trenbolone will convert to estrogen. Trenbolone administration would not promote estrogenic side effects such as breast tissue growth in men (gynecomastia, bitch tits) accelerated fat gain, decline in fat break down and water retention trenbolone. Trenbolone is also resistant to the 5- alpha-reductase enzyme, this enzyme reduces some steroid hormones into a more androgenic form, in trenbolones case however this does not matter, trenbolone boasts an androgenic ratio of 500, it can easily cause adverse androgenic side effects in any steroid.com members who are prone cases of hair loss, prostate enlargement, oily skin and acne have been reported. Unfortunately trenbolones potential negative side effects do not end there. Trenbolone is also a noted progestin: it binds to the receptor of the female sex hormone progesterone (with about 60% of the actual strength progesterone) (17). In sensitive steroid.com members this can lead to bloat and breast growth worse still, trenbolones active metabolite17beta-trenbolone has a binding affinity to the progesterone receptor (PgR) that is actually greater than progesterone itself (18). No need to panic though, the anti-estrogens letrzole or fulvestrant can lower progesterone levels, and combat any progestenic sides. The use of a 19-nor compound like trenbolone also increases prolactin& . bromocriptine or cabergoline are often recommended to lower prolatin levels (20). Testicular atrophy (shrunken balls) may also occur; HCG used intermittently throughout a cycle can prevent this. (21) It is also wise for Tren users to closely monitor their cholesterol levels, as well as kidney function and liver enzymes, as Tren has the potential to negatively affect all of those functions. Trenbolone, being a powerful progestin, will also shut down natural testosterone production which even a relatively small dose and keep the testosterone level suppressed for an extended period of time, this can lower libido and cause erectile dysfunction (fina ****). It is essential that you always stack trenbolone with testosterone.

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Old 03-26-2009, 12:39 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I could've sworn spawn was the same as epiotren and it had a 19-nor... well i'll be damned lol
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Old 03-26-2009, 09:24 AM   #5 (permalink)
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thanks for comments.

But Spawn is a 19 nor ... copy & paste from a site that sells spawn;

"Myogenix Spawn is a supplement that combines a specific blend of two of the most powerful legal anabolics. Myogenix Spawn is a prohormone which contains 19-Norandrosta-4,9 diene-3,17 dione and 2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyletioallocholanol. 19-Norandrosta-4,9 diene-3,17 dione is a progestin similar to trenbolone, nandrolone...."
 
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Old 03-26-2009, 02:56 PM   #7 (permalink)
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don´t worry ;·)

finally I´ll run a spawn cycle only
 
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ok i got tri-city chemicals spawn in my hand
amount per serving
Estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione 30mg
2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyletioallocholanol 8mg
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Old 03-26-2009, 06:56 PM   #9 (permalink)
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the picture the sites show are exactly the one I carry at my store
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Old 03-27-2009, 01:37 AM   #11 (permalink)
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ok i got tri-city chemicals spawn in my hand
amount per serving
Estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione 30mg
2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyletioallocholanol 8mg
Estra-4,9 and 19-nor are the exact same compound actually. Just different ways to write them and be sneaky that you have a "New" or "Better" PH.

Also since we are talking about these clones:

RSS Just came out with our NEW Alpha E product

Per tab:
Epistane 12mg
Estra-4,9 45mg

Actually is on sale cheaper than Spawn!
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Old 03-27-2009, 01:39 AM   #12 (permalink)
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ALSO no need to add winnny to that cycle....you should be having lean gains and no water retention from spawn. Adding a 3rd hromonal and a 2nd methyl will not exponentially increase gains. Winny also doesn't get you CUT.
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Old 03-27-2009, 08:45 AM   #13 (permalink)
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ok, thanks for you explain !!
 
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