Have I got this PH cycle right?

redsdf · 10-07-2008, 03:10 PM

So after spending months reading everything I can here and at the IBE forums (my head is overflowing with info) I think I'm ready to setup a cycle...Here's what I was thinking if you guys could give me some input....

I plan on taking Epistane for 4 weeks, 5x per week (weekdays)
Being my first PH cycle I'm looking to minimize any sides and make some moderate gains

Epistane
Week 1: 10,10,20,20,30
Week 2: 30 mg
Week 3: 30 mg
Week 4: 30 mg

PCT: Nolvadex
Week 5: 40,40,40,20,20,20,20
Week 6: 20mg everyday
Week 7: 10mg everyday
Week 8: 10mg everyday

Cycle Support:
AI Cycle Support, Posieden, Cissus (for my joints)

Now some questions:

Is a max dose of 30 mg of Epi enough? Should I bump it up to 40 in week 3?
Can I take a lower dose of Nolvadex?
I was considering taking an AI like Formestane or 6-OXO, how would I dose this? I was reading that it should be ramped up as nolva is tapered off?
Lastly is it necessary to take an anti-cort and a test booster? if so what dosage?

Have i got most of this correct?
Thanks for any input!!

I'm too excited to get this started....

some background info on myself....
Turning 26 this year, been working out since I was 16, working out properly since i was 19. I've made some great gains (gone from 110lbs to 183lbs @ 5'7") Just looking for something to push me to the next level...

**mitbar** · 10-07-2008, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redsdf

So after spending months reading everything I can here and at the IBE forums (my head is overflowing with info) I think I'm ready to setup a cycle...Here's what I was thinking if you guys could give me some input....

I plan on taking Epistane for 4 weeks, 5x per week (weekdays)
Being my first PH cycle I'm looking to minimize any sides and make some moderate gains why only 5 days you will have up and downs in your blood levels and wont get good gains. epi is a mild ph with like no sids man just run it 7 days a week

Epistane
Week 1: 10,10,20,20,30
Week 2: 30 mg
Week 3: 30 mg
Week 4: 30 mg bump up if you want to 40mg if you feel like it.

PCT: Nolvadex
Week 5: 40,40,40,20,20,20,20 change to 50mg ed
Week 6: 20mg everyday 50mg ed also
Week 7: 10mg everyday 25mg ed if needed last two weeks
Week 8: 10mg everyday

Cycle Support:
AI Cycle Support, Posieden, Cissus (for my joints)

Now some questions:

Is a max dose of 30 mg of Epi enough? Should I bump it up to 40 in week 3?
Can I take a lower dose of Nolvadex? no stick to what you have, is it the real noval or nolvadex xt?
I was considering taking an AI like Formestane or 6-OXO, how would I dose this? I was reading that it should be ramped up as nolva is tapered off? yes taper up as nolva goes down
Lastly is it necessary to take an anti-cort and a test booster? if so what dosage? not necessary but for cort use lean extreme

Have i got most of this correct?
Thanks for any input!!

I'm too excited to get this started....

some background info on myself....
Turning 26 this year, been working out since I was 16, working out properly since i was 19. I've made some great gains (gone from 110lbs to 183lbs @ 5'7") Just looking for something to push me to the next level...

ok so i answered some of you questions above in bold. also just run it 7 days a week, its mild and you wont have any bad sides. read ibanezmans pulsing log and you will see that pulsing sucks.

redsdf · 10-09-2008, 03:35 PM

Thanks for the input mitbar!

Ok, Epistane is on it's way. I've decided to do a 7 day cycle, and will probably bump it up to 40mg as long as I have no adverse reactions....

for my PCT I think I will just do Tamoxifen Citrate and X-Lean

I will be taking Cycle Support during the cycle and after.

I'm buying Tamoxifen Citrate online for a relatively cheap price so I was thinking of picking up 2 60 ml bottles to save on shipping in case I do another cycle...how long can these be stored for? any special way to store them?

Also, I am slightly worried about hair thinning/loss, what can I do to ensure it's not a problem?

laprocket · 10-09-2008, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redsdf

So after spending months reading everything I can here and at the IBE forums (my head is overflowing with info) I think I'm ready to setup a cycle...Here's what I was thinking if you guys could give me some input....

I plan on taking Epistane for 4 weeks, 5x per week (weekdays)
Being my first PH cycle I'm looking to minimize any sides and make some moderate gains

Epistane
Week 1: 10,10,20,20,30
Week 2: 30 mg
Week 3: 30 mg
Week 4: 30 mg

PCT: Nolvadex
Week 5: 40,40,40,20,20,20,20
Week 6: 20mg everyday
Week 7: 10mg everyday
Week 8: 10mg everyday

Cycle Support:
AI Cycle Support, Posieden, Cissus (for my joints)

Now some questions:

Is a max dose of 30 mg of Epi enough? Should I bump it up to 40 in week 3?
Can I take a lower dose of Nolvadex?
I was considering taking an AI like Formestane or 6-OXO, how would I dose this? I was reading that it should be ramped up as nolva is tapered off?
Lastly is it necessary to take an anti-cort and a test booster? if so what dosage?

Have i got most of this correct?
Thanks for any input!!

I'm too excited to get this started....

some background info on myself....
Turning 26 this year, been working out since I was 16, working out properly since i was 19. I've made some great gains (gone from 110lbs to 183lbs @ 5'7") Just looking for something to push me to the next level...

You should just run I-Force Reversitol one bottle. This is more than enough for an epistane cycle. There are logs in other forums with the Epi clycle, Reversitol PCT. I used it for PCT for an extreme tren cycle and was very happy.

redsdf · 10-09-2008, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by laprocket

You should just run I-Force Reversitol one bottle. This is more than enough for an epistane cycle. There are logs in other forums with the Epi clycle, Reversitol PCT. I used it for PCT for an extreme tren cycle and was very happy.

You mean use Reversitol with the Nolva?

laprocket · 10-09-2008, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redsdf

You mean use Reversitol with the Nolva?

all you need is reversitol. You can have some nolva on the side if it makes you feel more comfortable, but you shouldn't need it at all. Reversitol is an all in one PCT. I am not a rep for any company so my opinion and experience with this product is completely unbiased.

**mitbar** · 10-09-2008, 07:03 PM

you can go that route but just be safe imo and use the tomaxifen citrate like you have decided. but one bottle should be plenty for two cycles. i have one of clomid for two cycles.

as far as hair loss goes you shouldnt have a prob with it since epi is a mild ph.

redsdf · 10-10-2008, 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mitbar

you can go that route but just be safe imo and use the tomaxifen citrate like you have decided. but one bottle should be plenty for two cycles. i have one of clomid for two cycles.

as far as hair loss goes you shouldnt have a prob with it since epi is a mild ph.

sounds good!

Kingofkings90 · 11-04-2008, 10:40 PM

Alright, so im 18 in like 2 weeks and I want to run a H-Drol cycle. I know im to young but im also to hard headed to listen to people saying dont do it. I want some input on my cycle. On Cycle H-drol and Cycle assist, I was wondering how many mgs should I take for Maximum Results.And For Off Cycle im takin Novedex-XT and NOW Foods Liver detox and Regenerator.

**mitbar** · 11-05-2008, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Kingofkings90

Alright, so im 18 in like 2 weeks and I want to run a H-Drol cycle. I know im to young but im also to hard headed to listen to people saying dont do it. I want some input on my cycle. On Cycle H-drol and Cycle assist, I was wondering how many mgs should I take for Maximum Results.And For Off Cycle im takin Novedex-XT and NOW Foods Liver detox and Regenerator.

dont think the novedex xt will help you out much but your not going to listen either way lol. as a good rule of thumb go with what the bottle says to start out with then if you want adjust accordingly. i dont condone the use of phs at your age but if you wont listen to a no then info is needed. honestly i would get some clomid for pct and no its nothing you can get over counter.

**JakeVendetta** · 11-05-2008, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Kingofkings90

Alright, so im 18 in like 2 weeks and I want to run a H-Drol cycle. I know im to young but im also to hard headed to listen to people saying dont do it. I want some input on my cycle. On Cycle H-drol and Cycle assist, I was wondering how many mgs should I take for Maximum Results.And For Off Cycle im takin Novedex-XT and NOW Foods Liver detox and Regenerator.

Novedex-xt is a waste of time for PCT, although since your only running H-Drol i dont think you'll see too many problems. Find a SERM if possible either Nolvadex (tamoxifin) or Clomid. If your eating and training sucks then your results will suck equally.

**ibanezman88** · 11-05-2008, 05:57 PM

honestly, i ran it for 7 1/2 weeks at 60mg with very little sides and very little gains.

IMHO, epistane is just if you're looking to get past a platoe. not for gaining pounds of muscle mass in 3 weeks.

and for epistane, since it's non-aromatizing and it shuts you down (very mildly) i would go with clomid instead of nolva.
if you're paranoid, do both. it's mega overkill but i'll tell you, i used just 6oxo for pct my first time and i regreted it because it took a while for me to make gains naturally again and recover from workouts. that means my natural test levels were below the usual and i needed a stronger AI. that's how you loose your gains bro. if you're shut down, pct's number one priority is to bring back your natural test levels to normal because if they're shut down too long and you're off the stuff, you will start to loose your gains.