I started a Clen and T3 cycle about 6 days ago, I'm starting to hit 100mcg of T3 and 120mcg of Clen a day, and still have not felt the side effects of either at all.
I feel a ECA stack kick a lot more?
I'm 275 pounds.. (was 355 earlier this year ...) I have a clean diet, and do cardio pretty much everyday.
Since I'm heavier, should I increase the dosage a lil more...
Maybe 160mcg's of clen and 150 t3?
taper on both clen and t3 (clen not as much as t3) but defiantly taper down t3 and clen (clen not as much).
t3 will have an effect of eating up your muscles so be aware of that and that it's use is better whilst on aas.
after day 2 split your dosages in half, 1 in the early morning (approx.8-10am) and 1 in the afternoon (approx.2pm-4pm). take your dosage straight after a meal.
im basing this on your resign not for anyone that is using it from the start, if you are a beginner then pm me and i will give you a beginner plan and again this plan for big buzz not a beginner.
TAKE 2 WEEK REST FROM CLEN & T3 (use some benadryl 50mg before during the 2 weeks and then start like this).
can you get some ketofin?
DAY;
1 - 40mcg clen, 10mcg t3
2 - 60mcg clen, 20mcg t3
3 - 80mcg clen, 40mcg t3
4 - 80mcg clen, 60mcg t3
5 - 100mcg clen, 80mcg t3
6 - 120mcg clen, 90mcg t3
7 - 120mcg clen, 100mcg t3
8 - 120mcg clen, 100mcg t3
9 - 140mcg clen, 120mcg t3
10 - 140mcg clen, 100mcg t3
11 - 120mcg clen, 90mcg t3
12 - 100mcg clen, 80mcg t3
13 - 80mcg clen, 70mcg t3
14 - 60mcg clen, 60mcg t3
15 - 40mcg clen, 50mcg t3
16 - 40mcg t3
17 - 30mcg t3 -BENADRYL
18 - 20mcg t3
19 - 10mcg t3 -BENADRYL
20 - 5cg t3 -BENADRYL
21+ -BENADRYL
T3:
12.5mcg for 5-7 days (optional but recommended)
37.5mcg for 5 days
75mcg for 15 days
50mcg for 5 days
37.5mcg for 5 days
25mcg for 5 days
12.5 mcg for 5 days
6.25mcg for 5-7 days
i didnt want to go above 75mcg so i set it up like this, found it easier to cut pills in half, compare to like 1/4. pills were small.
__________________ MoMass
start date 7/1/08
current weight 265 @ 9.2% bf
goal 270+ @ 10% bf -
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clen should make u feel a lil warm, it also makes you kinda sleepy. u should have your body fat checked cause i know a few ppl that have taken it while with solid diet and some cardio and weight training and there body fat dropped and was very noticeable.
1. get body fat checked
2. diet must be in check
3 training must be in check
p.s. eca much safer, and will see similar results. eca also give u tremendous amount of energy, where as clen and t3 get u kinda drowsy
__________________ MoMass
start date 7/1/08
current weight 265 @ 9.2% bf
goal 270+ @ 10% bf -
only trees grow naturally...and the bigger trees use fertilizer :]
clen should make u feel a lil warm, it also makes you kinda sleepy. u should have your body fat checked cause i know a few ppl that have taken it while with solid diet and some cardio and weight training and there body fat dropped and was very noticeable.
1. get body fat checked
2. diet must be in check
3 training must be in check
p.s. eca much safer, and will see similar results. eca also give u tremendous amount of energy, where as clen and t3 get u kinda drowsy
my boy swears by eca, ill be letting you guys know how it is very soon
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Ahhh, for some reason, I figured Clen would make me all jittery and wide awake.
Maybe I was just looking for a "eca" type reaction.. I've took a eca stack before, and it has worked, I've felt the effects "cotton mouth, jittery, hyper, low hunger, ect"..
My diet is in check, low carb, lots of natural high protien food... chicken, tuna, nuts, ON protien, tons of water.
I work out from 12-1:30 in the mornings "some cardio", and then a get about 30 mins of cardio in around 11:30 at night.
What is the best way to check body fat...should I pick up a caliber while I'm out tomorrow?
I'm also comming into my 3rd week of creatine, maybe my muscles holding more and more water is showing me that slower weight loss.
lay off the creatine imo.
another thiing i forgot to not was to take eca stack in between clen cycles and have an overall week off in a 6 week cycle.
like
clen/t3
eca
clean/t3
week off
etc.
lay off the creatine imo.
another thiing i forgot to not was to take eca stack in between clen cycles and have an overall week off in a 6 week cycle.
like
clen/t3
eca
clean/t3
week off
etc.
By doing what you recommend with t he ECA stack you are not allowing to the down regulation of Beta 2 receptors.
So IMHO you should not use ECA. Ephedra binds just like clen to beta 2
that is why you take benadryl to up regulate your beta 2 receptors, also the effect's to your body that clen will have are a lot stronger than an eca stack & the effect of ephedrine to the beta 2 receptors as apposed to clen is...how can i put it in terms for you to understand
a cluster bomb against a direct hit to the beta 2 receptors.
that is why you take benadryl to up regulate your beta 2 receptors, also the effect's to your body that clen will have are a lot stronger than an eca stack & the effect of ephedrine to the beta 2 receptors as apposed to clen is...how can i put it in terms for you to understand
a cluster bomb against a direct hit to the beta 2 receptors.
What you are saying is an oxymoron. If Benadryl does such a great job then why use the ECA? It's like using Primo in your PCT coming off Test. You either come off or you stay on, make the choice. You are pussy footing around.
Also you do not know how Ephedra effects this person as apposed to clen. So you can not compare the two.
...) I have a clean diet, and do cardio pretty much everyday.
