[ibanezman88]

ok, so this winter, i think i got it all planned out but i have some questions.

m-drol - week 1-4 - 10mg for first week and 20mg ED for the remaining 3 weeks

bridge to havoc

Weeks

5 - 40mg ED
6 - 50mg ED
7 - 60mg ED
8 - 60mg ED

and then nolvadex and clomid for 6 weeks

i might cut the havoc out one week early and just end it at week 7 but we'll see.

support supplements

i'm buying 3 tubs of cycle support before i even buy the m-drol and havoc. i'll probably pre-load it for 2 weeks before the cycle this time.

animal pak every morning
animal flex every day as well

what do you guys think?

i know it's gonna be harsh on the liver but i'll be prepared. why the long oral cycle? i firmly believe that you keep more of your gains if you do a longer cycle. the havoc is basically just to maintain what i gained from m-drol and maybe still gain a little bit but i won't gain too much from havoc.

i will not be using creatine or NO durring this cycle. i'll save that for after the cycle. i like the gains i get/keep when i save those for PCT.

also, is 6 weeks too long for PCT? i extended it to 6 weeks just as a precaution.

one more question. does anybody here have any experience with CEL m-drol? are there any better superdrol clones out there?

diet is going to be normal. no crazy calories cuz i got fat last cycle. so calories are gonna be around 3500-4000 and i'm around 176lbs right now i think. protein is going to be roughly around 1.3g per lbs.

thanks all.

i'll proably start this cycle in december or january. we'll see.

[LIFTBIG18]

ive heard methyl dx3 is a good superdrol clone and i dont believe havoc is a methyl( i may be wrong) but def pre load the cycle support for the superdrol, looks good tho

[under construction]

have you checked your cholesterol and bp health in general since the last cycle? Just worried about you bro.

[ibanezman88]

thank you so much UC.

blood pressure was at around 140 before the cycle.

durring the cycle, it went down to 120. and it's still normal.

i have no idea what my cholesterol is. but is it possible to have high cholesterol and normal blood pressure?

[under construction]

Id have to guess no but thats just a guess.The reason why it crossed my mind is cuz I remembered rippdup having high cholesterol after cycling PHs

[ibanezman88]

rippdup did a very long a very harsh PH cycle. i know what you're talking about.

[ibanezman88]

but even with the support supps, my bp and chol. will go up significantly on this cycle.

i'm prepared. shouldn't be too bad.

[Xemantic]

looks good bro, how do you plan on dosing the nolva and clomid for the 6 weeks of pct?

[emkay237]

if you dont mind me asking why do you decide to use PH's instead of real gear ?

[Xemantic]

Originally Posted by emkay237

if you dont mind me asking why do you decide to use PH's instead of real gear ?

because oneday he plans on being a police officer so gear is out of the question for him, that's why he uses legal over the counter PH's

[rIPPDUP]

to answer your question ibanez, yes it is possible to have normal bp and high cholesterol. my bp has always been normal, but on the last ph stack my cholesterol went from normal around 115-120 to 300. so get your stuff checked.

[Finod]

What about hawthorne berries they help with the bp right