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Old 08-27-2008, 08:27 AM   #1
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Hey guys,

If anyone brews here or has some valid info please tell me , Is it better to add some bezoate when making Test E or just use Benzyl alocohol? I have seen recipes where benzyl alocohol is just used and said it works fine also a close mate uses just benzyl alcohol and is happy. How will the BB benefit my solution?
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Old 08-27-2008, 12:15 PM   #2
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i dont homebrew at all bro, wish i did, but this was posted on another board, hope it helps

Alright first things first. The numbers I am going to use can be changed by the user at any given time using the Powder calculator located on this page. So let?s just get right into it shall we?

What you?re going to need
1. Powder
2. Syringe filters
3. BA (Benzyl Alcohol)
4. BB (Benzyl benzoate)
5. Flat stove top pan
6. Empty vials
7. Syringes
8. Fresh oil
9. Glass beaker
10. Thermostat

Alright so set your flat stove top pan on one of your burners and turn it on to 6-7 (or just over medium burn). Pour a layer of water on the pan as to cover the whole surface but nothing really deep. Place the beaker then onto the water covered pan.

At this point you should have used the powder calculator to calculate the right amount of oil, BA & BB you will need. So pour in your allotted amount of oil into the beaker. Then place the thermostat into the oil. The thermostat should sit in the oil during the rest of this process as to keep the temperature correct and it helps to stir the oil with it later.

Once the oil comes to 160 degrees slowly bring the heat down on the burner a bit. Continue to stir the oil to make sure the entire batch is set and warm. Now pour in your powder compound. This once again should have already been pre weighted (IE 25 grams will yield 100ml @ 250mg/ml) Put the powder compound in pieces at a time, not all at once. Once you start putting the compound into the oil continue to stir the oil with the thermostat to help break it down into the oil. Once all the powder has been put into the oil continue to stir till you no longer see any compound and the oil reverts back to its regular state. You might think this isn?t going to happen but it will slowly disperse into the heated oil. Make sure your oil stated around 160 degrees during this entire process. Now that you have the powder mixed in with the oil you can now remove the vial from the stove top pan as the oil will stay around 160 long enough to add the BA & BB.

Using a syringe draw out the needed amount of BA & BB in different syringes. Then add the BA to the oil one syringe at a time. While adding these don?t forget to stir the oil with the thermostat and DO NOT add the BB until you see that the BA has dispersed into the oil and the oil looks normal again. Then add the BB and follow the same process. (IE add the BB, stir with thermostat until dispersed)

That process is pretty quick and easy and your oil should still be fairly hot. So while it cools down a bit get ready for the VERY annoying part. I go out of my way to buy 10-20ml syringes to make this process take less time. Using 3ml syringes to filter 100ml worth of gear is a pain in the ass. Get out your syringe filters. A lot of people use .45u Whatman because it works well with oil but I use another. It?s your choice.

If you have pre sealed vials make sure you stick an extra pin into the stomper as to let out air. I don?t use pre sealed vials it?s easier. Draw the oil out of the beaker and into the syringe. Attach the syringe filter to the end of your syringe and press the oil into the filter then out into your new vials. You will notice that the first time you do this it takes 2ml of oil to fill up the filter before any oil comes out. So with this in mind don?t forget that after you push all your oil (100ml or whatever) through the syringe filter to go back and pull 2ml worth of regular oil into the syringe and push that oil then into your filter to get your 2ml worth of gear out that will be remaining in the filter.

You are now done. I am going to answer a couple things real fast that I didn?t cover because this guide is getting real long and in depth.

1. MOST syringe filters are only good for between 50-100ml worth of gear. So buy a couple extra. Crashed filters will piss you off if it crashes and you still have gear left.
2. The type of oil you use doesn?t really matter. Keeping the oil at 160 during the compounding process keeps it clean.
3. Make sure you use a glass/pirex see through beaker to hold the hot gear. A Wal-Mart brand shitty glass measuring cup/glass vial will crack under the heat.

Lastly, this is just a rough guideline, I must stress that I didn?t go into exact amount of the compound because every person is different and I wanted this to work with everyone. Make sure you use the powder calculator to figure out the exact amount of BA, BB and Oil you are going to need with your powder prior to starting anything
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Old 08-28-2008, 12:02 AM   #3
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Thanks man, i worked it out found a good post on solvents and there role, thanks for ur help.
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Old 08-28-2008, 12:05 AM   #4
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do u have any idea of what the powder would be exactly? i'm a lil confused on that part, but other than that i understand everything else.
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Old 08-28-2008, 12:09 AM   #5
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do u have any idea of what the powder would be exactly? i'm a lil confused on that part, but other than that i understand everything else.
i think he posted it saying that it can be used for any-thing that is oilbased, so test,sust,tren, actually dont know tren is converted from fina pellets, but it will def work for test
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Old 08-28-2008, 03:22 AM   #6
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yeh u can use it for all oil bases substances. But depending on what your making you may need to add a couple of solvents that help the soultion mix and not crystalise.
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Old 08-28-2008, 12:15 PM   #7
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aight, so basically you can figure out the powder for any sort of oil-based substance (whatever you want really) and then use that general outline for how to make it. Sound about right?
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Old 08-28-2008, 12:28 PM   #8
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aight, so basically you can figure out the powder for any sort of oil-based substance (whatever you want really) and then use that general outline for how to make it. Sound about right?
yea that sounds right, like con said you may need to add another solvent depending on what compound/powder you are using, id love to homebrew my own shit, but if you get caught with powder there is no way anyone would believe its for personal use lol
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Old 08-28-2008, 12:30 PM   #9
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i tried doing some research, but it didn't pan out that well, but can you pm me and kinda explain the whole powder thing? like what's involved in it and all that jazz. thanks dude!
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Old 08-28-2008, 12:32 PM   #10
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i tried doing some research, but it didn't pan out that well, but can you pm me and kinda explain the whole powder thing? like what's involved in it and all that jazz. thanks dude!
what do you mean the whole powder thing? what info you lookin for exactly?
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like essentially what the powder consists of. Just saying powder kinda confuses me for some reason haha
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Old 08-29-2008, 01:06 AM   #12
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Ok basically if you find a source that manufactures Raw hormone powder then u can make your own gear using the right materials. A source will sell you for examply Test prop powder. This powder is just the pure raw hormone with the ester already attatched. Once you calculate how many ml's and mg's per ml you want to make then you follow a basic recipe and make your own gear for a fraction of the price.
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