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Old 07-22-2008, 11:30 PM   #1
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Hey all,

As most of you already know I live in Australia. Customs here is an absolute nightmare. A lot of people are having problems just getting some supps in the door let alone anything else.

Just thought I'd ask if anyone knows if Epistane/Havoc would be cleared by customs? (I know, Kenny's thread got me thinking lol).

Is it worth even trying?


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Old 07-23-2008, 01:53 AM   #2
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OZ customs suck. not much you can do besides get contacts or move OS :(
 
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Old 07-23-2008, 01:57 AM   #3
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Well moving overseas isnt really an option. SUX!!!
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Old 07-23-2008, 03:16 AM   #4
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I know you can get some PH's and stuff through but look for products with packaging as inconspicuous as possible and buy from places like orbitnutrition as i have heard they automatically flag some of companys for inspection and scrutiny.

I think as it goes through your local post office location and the individual staff make a difference.

i have had packages get through that are not legal and they have been checked so obviously they didnt care too much or didnt know what phs,M1t were

I think it all comes down to if your willing to have a go and take the risk. Keep in mind once your address is black listed i would not send anything else there as it will fall under scrutiny.

Maybe do a trial run and send it with your name to granmas house so that way you will still get it but it doesnt really matter if you get the address blacklisted
 
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Old 07-23-2008, 04:03 AM   #5
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yeah but whats the go with that? If they do seize an item, other than ur address being blacklisted, is there any trouble (for lack of a better word) that u will get in with cops or the courst for trying to import and 'illegal' substance?

sorry if it seems ignorant but i wanna know the whole stroy before trying.

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Old 07-23-2008, 04:08 AM   #6
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My understanding is that the items will be seized and you will get a letter stating they not legal in aus.

I have heard of plenty of seizures but no one getting anything more than a letter.

Im sure you will get a different reaction if you try and post some cocaine but for phs and such you wont get in trouble. I dont think you will even get in trouble for aas or pcts but there is just a much higher chance of getting blacklisted and your gear getting seized.
 
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:13 AM   #7
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Customs can eat out my ass.
 
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:46 AM   #8
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hey outlaw2008, lol, that's kinda mean, blacklisting your grandmother! ahahaha
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Old 07-23-2008, 01:23 PM   #9
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best thing to do that i can suggest is to ring customs and tell them what you are importing and they will tell you the result. If you don't contact the, and it is seized you will simply receive a letter of what law act you broke and what substance it was and your address will have something saying that you broke that law and you imported what ever you did.
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Old 07-23-2008, 02:26 PM   #10
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just check to see if epistane/havoc is illegal or not over there!
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Old 07-23-2008, 06:45 PM   #11
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ok, well ive just found a few forum posts on various forums about a handful of aussies that have tried to get havoc/epi in. All were successful, and every single one had their boxes checked by customs. They all said they ordered from bb.com so thats why the box was checked.

that was however late last year. I dunno if the laws have changed since then. Ive tried looking through the customs website...wow what a load of bureaucratic red-tape bullshit that site is!
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Old 07-23-2008, 06:54 PM   #12
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Update:
Included on the banned list of imported substances:
Epitiostanol: 2-alpha,3-alpha-Epithio-5-alpha-androstan-1 7 - beta-ol

Reason: Anabolic/Androgenic

Bugger! So unless I can get it through without being checked at customs, havoc/epi is out of the question.
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Old 07-23-2008, 06:57 PM   #13
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Im going to add it to my shoppinglist for my next order which i will place once i get my current one so i will let you know its success
 
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