[A-Ron21]

Hey guys, quick question here - I was wondering if anyone knows if there are any legal prohormones out there that have similar collagen repairing effects that Deca does, ie. joint repair and strength. I've been looking around the internet and haven't found anything specific really.

If you're wondering why, its because I have weak rotator cuffs due to playing competitive paintball. I used cissus for 3 months and it helped a ton, but they still cannot be said to be strong. Thats why I had taken an interest in Deca as it is known to speed joint repair and whatnot.

[ZackKnight]

not sure, but YOU SHOULD NEVER USE WINNY haha your joints would hate you haha

[ibanezman88]

seriously, why don't you just supplement with glucosamine and chondrotin like i am. it helps a ton. and just train smart bro. listen to you body.

my knees hurt when i DON'T go all the way down on my squats. my elbows hurt when i DON'T go all the way down on my front presses and overhead tricep extentions.

take a week or two off and just keep eating big. make sure you get those omega 3's and flax seed oil is supposed to help as well.

but if you absolutely MUST resort to gear to treat something you can simply do so by being more careful, look at decavol.

not many people have tried this yet so you're at your own risk with this stuff.

[gringo220]

I don't know if this will work or not but have you tried a cortisone shot from the doc? My dad had a shoulder problem before and got the shot (said it hurt a bit) and his shoulder was fine for a few months. And what the hell, you must be one mean mother fu**er on the field! LOL! Like ibanezman said try taking glucosamine.

[A-Ron21]

haha, well first off i wouldn't take winny because i dont know anything about it lol.
ibanez- i DO take flax oil as well as gluc/chon/msm. i train properly and get lots of rest. my joints are just fucked. lol.
what is decavol? some PH ripoff of deca?

gringo, i'll ask my doc about the cortisone shot.

and yeah, i played pro for about 3 weeks for a team 2 years ago, but the team broke up. if you guys have ever seen paintball on ESPN, thats what i do; in fact i was at those events that ESPN filmed, but they only filmed the pro division and not mine.

[ibanezman88]

decavol is the only prohormone that converts to actual deca in the body.

i did some research for ya and some people have reported moderate gains with a definate decrease in joint pain.

[ZackKnight]

I actually saw that today at vitamin shoppe

[ibanezman88]

yeah i saw it for the first time at vitamin shoppe too.

the thing is, you need a real SERM if you're taking that IMO. i don't think there is much of a risk for gyno but, you'll be shut the fuck down by the time you finish running a full cycle i think.

[prime52]

cortisone shot aye ive had a couple in my day lol. good stuff. just dont go all crazy and get like 7 in one year on side is brittle bones :[

[A-Ron21]

hhmmmmmm. well maybe i'll run another PH first before that. we will see, but thanks for the info guys!

[A-Ron21]

Alright, so i just read something about how EQ has similar collagen rebuilding effects that deca has. I'm gonna check into that...

[ZackKnight]

EQ is also associated with good strength gains from what i hear