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Old 07-03-2008, 06:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Just curious about what ppl think about sustanon or omnadren. What was your dosage? what were your gains like? what was your pct like? these are the two compounds i have heard little about and haven't experimented with yet. I'm mainly looking to make lean gains, something that'll help me retain my muscles while im attempting to drop body fat etc., besides of course bcaa's :)

not sure if one of the two mentioned compounds will do that but if they dont i was considering just running a low dosage test cycle (somewhere around 200-400mg EW) with some arimidex while on cycle and nolva/clomid/hcg when i get off. i've heard tren works real well too but i dont wanna deal with the side effects that could also happen. any input would be appreciated, thanks.
 



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Old 07-03-2008, 06:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Omadren contains testosterone isohexanoate and testosterone hexanoate. This modification makes Omnadren even stronger than it´s brother(sus). But the side effects are worse.

A fairly safe and effective dosage would be in the range of 250-1000 mg per week. Omnadren is active in the body for a few weeks, but an injection should be taken at least once a week.

do u plan on stackin?
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Old 07-03-2008, 08:10 PM   #3 (permalink)
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well i dont plan on stacking sus and omnadren together, but i may stack some EQ with the omnadren. only problem is i've heard EQ may take up to 6 weeks to kick in, i can never tell when EQ actually
"kicks in". when i took it i stacked it with test so thats all i could feel, i think.
 
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Old 07-03-2008, 08:27 PM   #4 (permalink)
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sus is great. it's gotta be done pretty regularly though to get the full effect of the short esters in it.
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Old 07-03-2008, 10:28 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Just curious about what ppl think about sustanon or omnadren. What was your dosage? what were your gains like? what was your pct like? these are the two compounds i have heard little about and haven't experimented with yet. I'm mainly looking to make lean gains, something that'll help me retain my muscles while im attempting to drop body fat etc., besides of course bcaa's :)

not sure if one of the two mentioned compounds will do that but if they dont i was considering just running a low dosage test cycle (somewhere around 200-400mg EW) with some arimidex while on cycle and nolva/clomid/hcg when i get off. i've heard tren works real well too but i dont wanna deal with the side effects that could also happen. any input would be appreciated, thanks.
The current formulas of Sustanon and Omnadren are actually the same, despite a MD article that claims otherwise. The formulas have been the same since 2000. Just different manufacturers. Sustanon is definetly more sought after arguably has better quality controls. Personally I would feel more comfortable with the Omnas as they are faked much less often and are supposed to be dosed more accurately. I think a lot of the reason that people experience more bloat on omnas than sust is because theres a better chance that their getting all the test they payed for. More Test equals more bloat. If you want to use HCG us it on cycle at 250 IU 2X per weeks weeks 3-XX (however long you are running it), dont use in PCT. I wouldnt use a multiestered Test unless you are planning on running at least 750mg per week as it needs to be injected at least 3 times per week for stable blood levels, EOD is better. Also human grade sustanon is 250mg/ml so injecting 200mg or 400mg per week is going to take some creativity. Stick with Test E or C and some adex or aromisin to control the bloat, add some var or another oral if you want, fat loss or muscle gain on cycle is based on diet and excercise much more so than what compounds you are running, though admittedly some keep you drier than others. You can also look into clen, t3, eca, etc. Since it seems that this is your first cycle, stay far away from Tren. The only other thing Id add is that I really wouldnt suggest running a cutter for your first cycle. Cutters are really more suited to people with more AAS experience. If you are already at low BF and just want to keep it that way on cycle then I dont see a major problem with it but if you have greater than 12% bf, IMO you should try to get your bf lower before cycling as high bf strongly effects estrogenic side effects.
 
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Old 07-03-2008, 10:41 PM   #6 (permalink)
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OOHH Omnadren. My mouths watering. I did 2 or 3 cycles with it and a few of sust but L like the omn's better. And I did get more bloat with the omnadren than sust(it was the only time I ever had a prob with my bp) but I don't mind the bloat. If it's your first cycle stay with an e or c cycle like triddy said. Use var or tbol if you want for the first 4 weeks. If you do either omn or sust then you need to inject it on mon,wed,and,fri to keep the short acting esters active in your system. Do 750mg a week,thats 1 ml for every injection,it keeps it easy that way. You can use some adex or armo for the bloat if you want to. Hope some of this helps.
 
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Old 07-04-2008, 01:55 AM   #7 (permalink)
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haven't tried Omna's but they are the same as susts..just cheaper. 1000mg/week is always a good dose and pct would fallow with the longest ester's life.
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Old 07-04-2008, 10:01 AM   #8 (permalink)
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actually this isn't my first cycle, i just have no experience with omna or sus. i've run mainly long esters such as test E or C, with deca or EQ. The only short esters i've used is test prop. speaking of which, is there pain at the injection site when you inj omna or sus? i would suppose there is if it a blend of short esters, and most short esters hurt.

i think i'm going to go with omnadren and perhaps run it with some arimidex to keep the bloat down. i'll prob inject it 3x a week and run it for about 10 weeks. and ill run the HCG like you suggest triddy. what else does this cycle need? i'm actually probably somewhere around 14% bf, i plan on cleaning up my diet a bit and adding some low intensity cardio in the mornings and after work outs, so im looking for something that'll still help me gain/keep my muscles

also, triddy, did you used to be an SSB mod?
 
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Old 07-04-2008, 03:42 PM   #9 (permalink)
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actually this isn't my first cycle, i just have no experience with omna or sus. i've run mainly long esters such as test E or C, with deca or EQ. The only short esters i've used is test prop. speaking of which, is there pain at the injection site when you inj omna or sus? i would suppose there is if it a blend of short esters, and most short esters hurt.

i think i'm going to go with omnadren and perhaps run it with some arimidex to keep the bloat down. i'll prob inject it 3x a week and run it for about 10 weeks. and ill run the HCG like you suggest triddy. what else does this cycle need? i'm actually probably somewhere around 14% bf, i plan on cleaning up my diet a bit and adding some low intensity cardio in the mornings and after work outs, so im looking for something that'll still help me gain/keep my muscles

also, triddy, did you used to be an SSB mod?
My first shot of omnadren left me sitting on one butt cheek for about a week. Hurt like hell but could have been virgin muscle. THe rest were still a little sore though.
 
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how long is omnadren usually run for and how many injection sites did you rotate?
 
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how long is omnadren usually run for and how many injection sites did you rotate?
Minimum should be 12 weeks. I had a friend go 25 weeks on it though. Shoot it mon/wed/fri for 1ml a shot, total 750mg a week. Start pct 2 weeks after last injection.
 
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im havin second thoughts cuz i only inj shoulder and glutes and if i inj shoulders i wont be able to work like shoulders or chest for awhile until they heal up
 
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Just suck it up and work through it. I did and it sucked sometimes but you'll get used to it.
 
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why not? pain?
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