[ZackKnight]

Alright fellas, I have a friend whose taking some Andropen, EQ, and was taking Havoc with it, but I convinced him to take that out cuz he was wasting his money and time.

He's only doing a 5 week cycle of the Andro and EQ, I told him that since he's only done 1 week of the Andro that he could cut it out and save it til he gets a full cycle and more vials, but he's stubborn and is continuing the 1 vial of Andro and using the EQ. He's also looking to get some tbol. Which is just gonna end up being useless cuz by the time it's done his cycle will end.

He's dosing the Andro at 500mg a week and the EQ now at 800, he was at 600, but is upping it this week.

He is also going to be using some caber to take care of some prolactin gyno from using the ph tren.

in the past he's done oral winny, eq, masstabs, etc. basically he's put his body through a lot of shit, but figures that since he has the stuff, then why not use it.

He has a lot of nolva, and I talked to him today and he didn't even know that he needed clomid for pct. So basically I wanted to know what you guys think I should tell him. I've told him to wait and stop, but that didn't work. So what else you guys got? haha

[ibanezman88]

yo, you can get info here and try to advise him but in the end, sometimes you just gotta let them make stupid mistakes.

for me, i tell my friend once and if he don't listen, it's not my problem.

[gringo220]

Is his andropen made by british dragon? If it is I hope he's had it for some time because they're out of the game now and have been for some time. I wouldn't trust the quality of it. Other than that you told him to get some clomid so just hope he does. And tell him that 1 vile will not be enough for a cycle because it needs to be shot eod or you'll lose the prop ester in it. The 800mg of eq is good. Tel him to drop the andro and get some enanthate and he'll be hell of a lot happier. Let him know for next time that he should have everything planed out first and know what he's doing before he starts because he has no clue. Good luck!

[Kaboom]

Gringo even at 800mg is a 5 week cycle enough for decent results?

[gringo220]

^^ No not at all. I forgot to add in there he needs to extend his cycle another 5 weeks minimum to get any sort of decent results. Good eye Kaboom!

[Zomb131]

you already told him, he ain't listening. Live and learn.

[Kaboom]

^yeah some people know it all wont listen to anybody

[gringo220]

Yup, I had a buddy with some fake deca once. I told him it was fake and to throw it away, and what did he do? Yup 5 weeks later I find out he's using it. Finally I showed him how I knew it was fake and then he decided it wasn't a good idea to take it. But I guess we've all been there a time or two in our lives.

[FronttaBackThickness]

what i've noticed, and what really irks me, is that people ask you a question expecting an answer.
99% of the time you don't give them the answer they like.
So what do they do?
They keep asking every big dude they see, until they finally give up and realize that there is no easy way and or that there is no magic answer, eat, sleep, train, and supplement.
The magic answer is time, patience, and trail and error.
i just went through another friend asking me a question he already had answered and watched him proceed to ask somebody else hoping that he'd tell them that what he was doing or wanted to do was fine, when it's not.
blah.
it irks me.

[ZackKnight]

Yeah, I told him to get more and he said it was too expensive. I think he's just stubborn and being stupid. He's got a lot of room to grow naturally too. He's only 5'8 and like 170 at like 8% or so

[FronttaBackThickness]

damn he could bulk to 200 with just over 10% in no time
cut down again and with a few runs natty he could get thick as hell.
i know it sux man, cuz i get pissed about stuff like that, but just try to keep talkin 2 him.

[ZackKnight]

I told him I was gonna talk to my boys and get you guys's advice haha