[Bigtime0041]

im thinking of taking my first cycle. am i able to take winstrol by itself or should i stack it with something else. im not looking to get huge, just more cut up. im already 5'11 226lbs. what are some good cycles to get cut up that arent too expensive. how about test propionate and winstrol? Im just looking for someone with advanced knowledge on this stuff. thanks

[anthk]

cut = diet.
aas usage whilst dieting helps maintain and grow muscles.
so your thoughts on this subject are not in the right place.

[mitbar]

diet comes first to lose wight bro. just like anthk said.

[Bigtime0041]

test propoinate and winny? would that work alright. like i said before im just looking to put on maybe 10-15 pounds and cut up, as i was told ill have to get my diet in check for it to work correctly. just curious what thoughts were on that stack.

[prime52]

get the size first bro then diet and drop some body fat. trying both will get you nowhere. for size you have to eat, high protein, carb, cal, and fats. whereas "cut" u need to drop the carbs and fats and cal with about the same amount of protein.

diet= predicts where cycle goes.

hope that makes sense

[lil_big_junior]

Prop & Winny stack works well but for a begginer, it's not advisable. Winstrol is horrible shit. There are far more better things out there, plus you either have to cut or bulk, you can't expect to put on 15lbs of mass while cutting in, you still need calories to grow. Steroids aren't a magical sweetie bro, they only work when you make them work, hope that made sense

[musicmann89]

Originally Posted by lil_big_junior

Prop & Winny stack works well but for a begginer, it's not advisable. Winstrol is horrible shit. There are far more better things out there, plus you either have to cut or bulk, you can't expect to put on 15lbs of mass while cutting in, you still need calories to grow. Steroids aren't a magical sweetie bro, they only work when you make them work, hope that made sense

cosign!, the only substance you might gain some muscle with when cuttin is tren and test together but i dnt advise tren for begginer

[king james]

If i were you i would try out test e or c first. 1-2 shots a week is better then prop which is 3x.

keep it simple and work your way up from there. 3 bottles of Test wont be to much $$$

If you dont want to do the shots i would say try out Tbol or Var.

Last thing if i were you i would post your diet so we can help, you dont wanna spend money and not do it right or it will be a waste.