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Old 06-23-2008, 10:58 PM   #1
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Test E: 1-12 500mg ew
Tbol/Dbol: 1-4 50mg ed

pct:
2 weeks after last pin:
1-4 50mg clomid ed
5-6 25mg clomid ed

^ is this correct for doses of gear/pct?
also, should i run nolva? I know to have it on hand.. Im not sure about the doses i should take nolva in if i run it... Appreciate the help guys
 
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Old 06-23-2008, 10:59 PM   #2
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i mean tbol OR dbol.. not both.. which would you guys recommend?
 
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Old 06-23-2008, 11:03 PM   #3
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It all looks good. As for the dbol or tbol it depends on what you want. The dbol will put on more mass and the tbol will give you a more leaner look.
The nolva isn't needed in the pct but it doesn't hurt. Start out at 40mg ed for the first four weeks and drop it to 20mg ed the last two. If you feel gyno starting during your cycle take 20mg ed until it's gone. Any more questions just ask.
 
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Thanks bro, appreciate the help.
 
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Old 06-23-2008, 11:08 PM   #5
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No problem! Good luck and enjoy!
 
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DBOL! Tbol seems milder in gains to me.

I'd keep the clomid consistent @ 50mg/ed for 6 weeks. Nolva should be run with PCT, but doesn't have to be. THe purpose of Nolva with pct is to prevent GYNO. If your nips don't itch or get sensitive..no need for it. BUT it's good just in case.
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cycle is good, your choice as others said upon your oral. end the cycle with tbol as well, week 10-14.
as for your PCT, both clomid & nolvadex is important.
nolvadex does regulate growth for natural testosterone so it mustbme included. i have used it alone for PCT and works great but clomid is better, so running both would befit you better than running only one of either.
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Old 06-24-2008, 03:59 PM   #8
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alright, i know to have nolva on hand incase of symptoms. would it do any harm if i ran both for pct?
 
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^ nope, no harm.
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Zombie bro, my nips itch all the time ..you think i have a problem ? hahahaha lmao bro !!
 
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