4AD and/or 1AD???? Side effects?

snowmanx · 06-23-2008, 03:18 PM

Has anyone ever used this product by Advance mucsle science? The 4AD is 4-androstene-3b-ol, 17-one, and the 1ad is 1-androstene-3b-ol, 17-one.

I can't find to much info on it besides manufacture claims.

**Teamorbit** · 06-23-2008, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by snowmanx

Has anyone ever used this product by Advance mucsle science? The 4AD is 4-androstene-3b-ol, 17-one, and the 1ad is 1-androstene-3b-ol, 17-one.

I can't find to much info on it besides manufacture claims.

There a pretty good company but like you I havent heard to much feed back either.

CrownSupplements · 06-23-2008, 04:56 PM

I would not trust them personally. I have talked to PA himself about the 1-ad clone they have and he told me that he tested a few runs of the product and it only contained half of the actual compound it was suppose to.

**Teamorbit** · 06-23-2008, 04:59 PM

Interesting. Whos PA?

CrownSupplements · 06-23-2008, 05:02 PM

Patrick Arnold the creator of 1-AD from Ergopharm

**Teamorbit** · 06-23-2008, 05:04 PM

Hmmm I may have to do some research here because if thats true I will take them off my site.

**ibanezman88** · 06-23-2008, 07:46 PM

interesting...

CrownSupplements · 06-23-2008, 09:47 PM

This isn't uncommon. There have been a lot of issues with Epistane as well containing mostly tren instead of the actually compound that should be in there. I try to sway people towards havoc due to this.

The product I believe that are pure are
Testanate 50
Havoc
11 oxo
Furazavol
Winztrol
Tren X
Methyl Dx3
Fast action pharma products

Just my opinion on the prohormone world.

**Teamorbit** · 06-23-2008, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CrownSupplements

This isn't uncommon. There have been a lot of issues with Epistane as well containing mostly tren instead of the actually compound that should be in there. I try to sway people towards havoc due to this.

The product I believe that are pure are
Testanate 50
Havoc
11 oxo
Furazavol
Winztrol
Tren X
Methyl Dx3
Fast action pharma products

Just my opinion on the prohormone world.

These are old rumors bro. I am good friends with both companies and Epistane is a great product that works very well. The rumors have been squashed and both companies are stariting to get a long.

FronttaBackThickness · 06-23-2008, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Teamorbit

These are old rumors bro. I am good friends with both companies and Epistane is a great product that works very well. The rumors have been squashed and both companies are stariting to get a long.

YESSIR that's right.
i dug deep into the EPI ordeal cuz my boi loved it.
it was and is a great product.

**Teamorbit** · 06-23-2008, 11:51 PM

^^^ I hear ya. Also I understand how some people may have felt like they were lied to but I find it a bit ironic how products like Spawn and Epiotren come out and they sell like candy. lmao. I just thought that was funny.

**mm1snapper** · 06-24-2008, 12:26 AM

Well why would ibe sell tren in there epistane??? Do you know the street value of this compound lol... And its a old rumor, wasnt even true. The only reason it tested as tren in the first place is because of the way the lab tested it.