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Old 06-11-2008, 11:06 PM   #1
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I was just offered some Clenbuterol and looked up some previous descussions about it and now after what i heard about the side effects im going to stay clear from it. Im allready going to take 50mgs/ED of winny up to the show. I was just wondering would it be worth wild taking some EQ with it? I will also be stacking it with test. I just want something to make me hard and a buddy said Clen but i dont think thats for me since im allready taking T3/T4. So would EQ with winny be good or just stay with the winny?
 
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Old 06-11-2008, 11:25 PM   #2
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dont bother with the eq see if u can get some masteron or tren and stick with the t3
 
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Old 06-12-2008, 02:12 AM   #3
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I was just offered some Clenbuterol and looked up some previous descussions about it and now after what i heard about the side effects im going to stay clear from it. Im allready going to take 50mgs/ED of winny up to the show. I was just wondering would it be worth wild taking some EQ with it? I will also be stacking it with test. I just want something to make me hard and a buddy said Clen but i dont think thats for me since im allready taking T3/T4. So would EQ with winny be good or just stay with the winny?
Some stay on EQ for vascularity....but hunger is a problem for most dieting. If you had some Bold Cypo (fast acting EQ) that would be good.

How far out are you from your show?

If you know your not going to dial in at the right bodyfat i'd run the clen. But stop 4-7 days out(camping is a bitch on it). Clen doesn't make you hard. It will drop about 5lbs of water, and you'll seems hard..but that will soon return.

I'd drop test 2 weeks out, and stay on winny, and if you have some HALO! I'd run halo from week 4 till contest day @30-40mg/day. If no halo, then Anavar maybe 50mg-100mg/day.
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Old 06-12-2008, 09:24 AM   #4
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well this saturday i will be 10 weeks out. I planed on running the test untill 2-3 weeks out. I am switching to propinate 5 weeks out so hopefully i wont be holding as much water. last year i didnt know about the oil holding water and i stoped the week of show. I think i will be lean enough come show. I'll have to read up on this HALO and Anavar stuff. Never heard of it. because i can only get ahold of winny tabs/50mg should i go up to 100mgs a day like the last week before show or just continue useing 50mgs a day for 50 days?
 
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Old 06-12-2008, 09:29 AM   #5
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If i can't get ahold of any real Tren would a legal brand like Tren-250 work? i found this stuff. TREN-250 60 softgels by Genetic Edge Technologies

should i even bother with something like this?
 
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Old 06-12-2008, 09:41 AM   #6
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If i can't get ahold of any real Tren would a legal brand like Tren-250 work? i found this stuff. TREN-250 60 softgels by Genetic Edge Technologies

should i even bother with something like this?
i wouldnt bother with it, just get halo or var
 
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Old 06-12-2008, 09:49 AM   #7
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Wouldnt the combination of clen and t3 be helpful?
I had never done this before until my last show and it really helped dial me in.
theres def nothing wrong with the EQ I love that too in the right combination.
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Old 06-12-2008, 12:47 PM   #8
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well this saturday i will be 10 weeks out. I planed on running the test untill 2-3 weeks out. I am switching to propinate 5 weeks out so hopefully i wont be holding as much water. last year i didnt know about the oil holding water and i stoped the week of show. I think i will be lean enough come show. I'll have to read up on this HALO and Anavar stuff. Never heard of it. because i can only get ahold of winny tabs/50mg should i go up to 100mgs a day like the last week before show or just continue useing 50mgs a day for 50 days?
Good, 10 weeks is plenty of time. Try to get your hands on Halo. If your lean enought this shit will make you look as hard as a rock on stage! Plus the strength on it is amazing. I remember last year shrugging 405lbs 2 weeks out. If you can't get halo or var, stick to your plan. Drop test e/c 5 weeks out and drop oils 2-3 weeks out, and stay on winny. It's up to you bro with increasing the dose. IMO if your going to bump it to 100mg/day you should do that 4 weeks out (or as soon as you drop oils) till contest day.

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If i can't get ahold of any real Tren would a legal brand like Tren-250 work? i found this stuff. TREN-250 60 softgels by Genetic Edge Technologies



should i even bother with something like this?
No no no, don't get this stuff.

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Wouldnt the combination of clen and t3 be helpful?
I had never done this before until my last show and it really helped dial me in.
theres def nothing wrong with the EQ I love that too in the right combination.
T3 + Clen would be perfect.

Starting 8 weeks out run T-3 till contest day. Here is the break down...
Week 8: 25mcg
Week 7: 50mcg
Week 6: 50mcg
Week 5: 50mcg
week 4: 50mcg
week 3: 50mcg
week 2: 50mcg
week 1: 25mcg

If your losing the right amount of body fat you doin't need to go higher then 50mcg's, if you know your not on target and need to lose more weight then expected...then taper up to 100mcg's and back down to 25mcg's properly.

As for clen, you can start that NOW. Cycle clen 2 weeks on, 1 off, 2 on , 2 off. Best way to run it. Or if you hate the sides of clen run Albuterol. 16mg's a day. 4mg's split into 4 doses.
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Old 06-12-2008, 01:58 PM   #9
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T3 + Clen would be perfect.

Starting 8 weeks out run T-3 till contest day. Here is the break down...
Week 8: 25mcg
Week 7: 50mcg
Week 6: 50mcg
Week 5: 50mcg
week 4: 50mcg
week 3: 50mcg
week 2: 50mcg
week 1: 25mcg

If your losing the right amount of body fat you doin't need to go higher then 50mcg's, if you know your not on target and need to lose more weight then expected...then taper up to 100mcg's and back down to 25mcg's properly.

As for clen, you can start that NOW. Cycle clen 2 weeks on, 1 off, 2 on , 2 off. Best way to run it. Or if you hate the sides of clen run Albuterol. 16mg's a day. 4mg's split into 4 doses.
This is about what i did except i only had 6 weeks to run and i went up to 75 mcg pf T3 and I was going to cycle off the clen but was told I could take benadryl to clean my beta receptors instead of coming off of it.I never stopped feeling the effects of it.Im still tapering back down now.To come off properly
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Old 06-12-2008, 02:48 PM   #10
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Well the problem with me right now is that iv been on test E at 800mgs a week and on Dbol for the last 3.5 weeks im cutting that out in 2.5 weeks so about 8 weeks out. But i havent droped but 2 lbs in the last 3.5 weeks. But iv droped about 4 inches off my waist. I have a flat stomach and my abbs are out nice there are veins all over me. but im still at 230lbs 5'8. im worried that im not loseing enough weight but im looking way better. My buddy says he can get Tren and Anavar 10. I really dont know what Halo is but i asked him if he could get that. im not to worried about the weight i just want to be hard as nails.
 
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Old 06-12-2008, 04:31 PM   #11
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If you have lost 4 ins in your waist but no weight you should be on your way to being hard as hell bro!!
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ok, anyway....if you drop something you should replace it with something else to prevent a stall in progress.
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