Thoughts on Test/(Deca??) Cycle?

TRiddy05 · 05-30-2008, 07:18 PM

Whats up guys? About to start a new cycle. I have been off since October, about 8 mo all together. Was planning on staying off untill I finished the course of accutane that Im on. I am about 3 mo in at 120mg ED. But screw it, I really dont want to wait any longer. What Im thinking is Test E at 750-1000mg per week for 14+ weeks. I cant do orals due to liver toxicity issues with the accutane. I also have a fucked up shoulder, that isnt getting any better and overall joint pain from the accutane. I was thinking about adding low dose deca to my cycle for the joint pain and collagen synthesis. For those of you who have used it what do you think the minimum effective dose would be for the joint lubing benefits. I was thinking along the lines of 300mg per week. Also is the joint lubrication dose dependent? Meaning does 600mg of Deca per week provide better joint lubrication than 300mg per week in your experience? Also do you think that I can get away with B6 for the gyno and Cialis for the deca dick? Dostinex is f*cking outrageously expensive. And a lack of libido doesnt really bother me that much as long as I can preform. So here is what Im thinking of running at this point. Your input is greatly appreciated:

Weeks 1-14+ Test E 750-1g/week
Weeks 1-12 Deca 300mg/week
Weeks 1-14 .5mg Adex EOD
Weeks 1-12 B6 200mg ED ??

Also as a side note the Test either comes in 300mg/ml for Test E or 500mg/ml for a E/C blend. And the Deca is 300mg/ml. And I only want to inject 2x per week max. So I would prefer to keep the dosages in a range that would work with that. And I also dont have access to NPP or EQ so those two compounds are out, unless I want to go with the "plex" people and I dont. Thanks in Advance.

-TR

anthk · 05-30-2008, 10:51 PM

alright as for the b6 i think you should drop it to 100mg ED, 100mg will be just as effective the extra dosage increases the chance of painful neurological symptoms and you won't benefit much more with the extra dose (if you run it for a long period of time) this is based on a 12 week dose.
i would think about week 1-4 100mg, week 5 200mg, week 6-8 100mg, week 9 300mg, week 10-12 100mg. with arimidex included you will be fine seeing as deca is being used at a low dose.

in regards to deca i found that a 150mg-200mg was effective for lubrication but that was for first cycle. so now a 300mg was even more effective. a dosage any higher than 200mg-300mg will aim to mass effects of deca and not much of a difference in lubrication with a higher dose IMO. why not run it at 500mg and get that extra out of it?

as for the test i'll leave that decision to you if you need that jump to 1g, 750 is a great/high dose.

tylerp · 05-30-2008, 10:59 PM

what does b6 do for gyno?

**musicmann89** · 05-31-2008, 01:06 AM

ilike your outline bro id run it like this

1-16 test e 750mg ew
1-15 deca 400mg ew
1-15 b-6 200mg ed
1-15 vitex 600-1g ed (lowers and prolaction levels)
1-16 adex .5mg eod or as needed

TRiddy05 · 05-31-2008, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anthk

alright as for the b6 i think you should drop it to 100mg ED, 100mg will be just as effective the extra dosage increases the chance of painful neurological symptoms and you won't benefit much more with the extra dose (if you run it for a long period of time) this is based on a 12 week dose.
i would think about week 1-4 100mg, week 5 200mg, week 6-8 100mg, week 9 300mg, week 10-12 100mg. with arimidex included you will be fine seeing as deca is being used at a low dose.

in regards to deca i found that a 150mg-200mg was effective for lubrication but that was for first cycle. so now a 300mg was even more effective. a dosage any higher than 200mg-300mg will aim to mass effects of deca and not much of a difference in lubrication with a higher dose IMO. why not run it at 500mg and get that extra out of it?

as for the test i'll leave that decision to you if you need that jump to 1g, 750 is a great/high dose.

Thanks for the advice bro. Will go with that protocol with the B6. And thanks for the info on the Deca. I dont know if Id rather go with 1g test and very low dose deca like 150mg or 750mg Test and 450mg Deca. May go with the slightly lower dose test, its just that pinning .75cc or 1.25cc depending on which I go with is a pain in the ass and difficult to get accurate. I could get amps of HG but that would be more expensive and then Id have to pin 3x per week. May go with 900mg per week of the Test E just as it would be easier to pin.

TRiddy05 · 05-31-2008, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by tylerp

what does b6 do for gyno?

Lowers prolactin levels. Wont help with estrogenic gyno, only P.I.G. like from 19-nors.

**Zomb131** · 05-31-2008, 01:20 AM

deca 600mg/week

TRiddy05 · 05-31-2008, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by musicmann89

ilike your outline bro id run it like this

1-16 test e 750mg ew
1-15 deca 400mg ew
1-15 b-6 200mg ed
1-15 vitex 600-1g ed (lowers and prolaction levels)
1-16 adex .5mg eod or as needed

Thanks bro. That sounds just about right. Will look into the vitex.

TRiddy05 · 05-31-2008, 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zomb131

deca 600mg/week

Really bro? Dont you think thats a lot for my first time using a 19-nor? Would you go 750mg Test E 600mg Deca?

**ibanezman88** · 05-31-2008, 11:47 AM

i think if i were ever to use gear, you've sold me on cycleing with adex!
thanks

**under construction** · 05-31-2008, 12:37 PM

bromo is usually cheap but I dont know how it compares to caber as far as effectiveness. Never considered using deca so I have minimal research time on it. anyway good luck with the cycle.

**musicmann89** · 05-31-2008, 03:37 PM

bromo will work as good as cabaser but ive heard bromo has sides to it, cabaser is a cleaner drug imo id get caber is possible but bromo is just as effective