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Old 04-23-2008, 03:42 PM   #1
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Whats up guys!!! I had planned on starting my first cycle a while ago and i had no idea where to begin! I got bad advice from others and posted it on here and made myself look like a fool!! I went back and studied some more and took the advice you guys gave me the first time and here it is!!

I plan on taking Test E for 12 weeks @ 500mg (pin twice a week M & T @ 250mg)

I plan on running liquidex arimidex @ .25mg-.5mg EOD to help keep down water retention and gyno from starting

I am still a little confused on pct though, I hear nolvadex is better than clomid for a lot of reasons but at the same time i see a lot of people prefer clomid on here!! I was also confused on why you run both even though they are basically the same in terms of pct!!??

But i planned on running nolvadex for 4 weeks 40/40/20/20 or should i do both nolvadex and clomid
50/40
50/40
50/20
50/20

Thanks for the help everyone cuz if it wasnt for all the advice on here alot of people would be screwing up!!!
 
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Old 04-23-2008, 04:17 PM   #2
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Nolvadex & Clomid are TWO different things bro...
Clomid for PCT is a must. No need for Nolva unless you really need it for encountering any Gyno sides.

In simple terms Nolva is used as an Anti E & for Gyno sides, Clomid is used to restore natty test levels...Nolva won't do nothing for bringing natty test levels back up...

PCT weeks 1-4 50mg ED Clomid
then if needed go another 2 weeks on Clomid at 25mg ED
Keep Nolva on hip incase you encounter Gyno...
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Old 04-23-2008, 04:18 PM   #3
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Clomid is for bringing back up natty test levels.
Nolvadex is more for prevention of gyno.

Two seperate things.

Clomid 50/Nolva 40
for 3 weeks

then Clomid 50/ Nolva 20 for 3 weeks.

taper more after that if desired.

Am I about right guys?
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Old 04-23-2008, 04:19 PM   #4
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wow, guess I am learning LBJ haha
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Old 04-23-2008, 04:21 PM   #5
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That's good bro, lol
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Old 04-23-2008, 07:00 PM   #6
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spot on lbj & zack
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