[diet freak]

im thinking about taking a hgh cycle only 4iu ed (2iux2)10-12 weeks.
im going to be on and off clen and eca for this period.
maybe im adding winstrol if i dont see any kind of results after 6weeks.

has anyone else tried a hgh cycle only?
what can i expect?
im220 pounds,180cm bf%15

the diet will be perfect

sorry about my english guys

thanks

[lil_big_junior]

Don't use Clen, too harsh & way too many sides & stay away from Winstrol...

GH needs to be used fro long periods of time. I'm talking about 6 months to get good results. 12 weeks is not enough.

Go for a good 20 weeks on GH at 5ius ED & the ECA stack as needed, but try to stay away from Clen.

Winstrol is horrible, but Winstrol without Test is stupid.

[diet freak]

i dont understand..
i have taken winstrol only and with test. no probs
I`v used wintrol only for comp and got great results.
clen is not harmfull if u think so. u might get som cramps and a little shaky hands but thats all buddy

im not a newb so i think i know what im talking about.

anyway..thanks on the reply with hgh

have any one else tried something like this?
pleas do not give me info i can find on google...

[musicmann89]

go with what lbj posted, hgh needs to be ran for 6 or more months year round is best results at 4-8 iu 5 on 2 off, dont run clen to many sidesm eca is much safer and just as effective, winny with or without test sucks

[lil_big_junior]

Originally Posted by diet freak

i dont understand..
i have taken winstrol only and with test. no probs
I`v used wintrol only for comp and got great results.
clen is not harmfull if u think so. u might get som cramps and a little shaky hands but thats all buddy

im not a newb so i think i know what im talking about.

anyway..thanks on the reply with hgh

have any one else tried something like this?
pleas do not give me info i can find on google...

Bro I'm 270lbs at 5'8, 11% bodyfat. I've had alot of first hand experience & built up vast amount of knowledge on this subject over the years, so don't think I'm just another young guy that reads shit on the net then copies & pastes it...If you don't wanna take my advice that's cool with me.

You clearly don't know the effects gear can have on the body regardless wheather you feel fine or not. TEST IS THE BASE IN ALL CYCLES regardless, Winstrol by itself may give you great results but without Test you're shooting yourself in the foot. If you don't like sex you carry on using Winstrol without Test, but in my opinion there are far more better things out there than Winstrol, Winny to me is shit & I hate it as much as I hate Deca, Anavar would be the better option to use for pre contest or on a cut...If you really know your stuff you wouldn't be asking a question like this. But then again if you don't want my advice that's fine with me

[ZackKnight]

Listen to LBJ, he knows what he's talking about.

Also, from what I remember it takes a good 6 months oh HGH to really see the good sides from it, and it's really expensive

[diet freak]

lol..how many cycles have u guys taken?
im 25years old and know what im talking about !
Winny and clen is not as harmfull i guys think it is! 50mg win ed i no prob.
i have almost no sides on 120-180mcg on clen.
im not saying that win and clen does DONT give u sides. but damn ur making it sound like its going to kill a horse.

i know bb who take hgh pre comp for xx.. weeks. but they have secrets as every one else. thats why i asked here.

[diet freak]

lol..how many cycles have u guys taken?
im 25years old and know what im talking about !
Winny and clen is not as harmfull i guys think it is! 50mg win ed i no prob.
i have almost no sides on 120-180mcg on clen.
im not saying that win and clen does DONT give u sides. but damn ur making it sound like its going to kill a horse.

i know hgh will give best results with a longer use of course.
that was not my question.

i know bb who take hgh pre comp for xx.. weeks. but they have secrets as every one else. thats why i asked here.

[lil_big_junior]

I've taken gear since I was 19. I was a 250lbs natural...
I've done ALOT OF VERY BIG CYCLES in the past. I think I'm now on my 13th cycle if I checked my record book properly.

I took a whole year off from everything but now I'm back on & into my 5th week of;

Weeks 1-20-1gram Primo EW split into 2 pins 500mg mon\fri
Weeks 1-10-1gram Sus EW split into 3 pins 250mg mon\ 500mg wed\ 250mg fri
Weeks 12-20-400mg Prop EW split into 3 pins 100mg mon\ 200mg wed\ 100mg fri
Weeks 1-5-50mg Tbol ED
Weeks 5-10-100mg Proviron ED
Weeks 12-20-50mg Var ED

But look I've answered your question. Like I said, if you don't want my advice don't take it. I'm not arguing with someone that clearly don't know nothing himself. Everyone has their opinion & I gave you mine to the best of my knowledge & experience. Don't want to take it, NOT MY PROBLEM.

[mindstar]

Clen can cause abnormanl heart growth and tissue necrosis, not a side that you'd actually 'feel' or notice until too late.

GH is 6 months minimum, the 5 on 2 off protocol was developed primarily for cost savings rather than efficacy, though it certainly does work. A wiser man than me once said the GH without gear is like dropping a great engine into a car with only 2 wheels.

[ognickyk]

from all the info you see online and everything..GH doesnt sound all that bad except for the fact if u have a tumor it accelerates growth =O

[ZackKnight]

that and it makes a lot of shit expand and enlarge which can cause issues