[DamienPriest]

The usual story here I met someone at the gym through a lifting partner that is selling testosterone and estrogen pills, now I am not to sure if I want to take these because I know nothing about these items. Is there a good article to read?
He told me to take 2 t pills/day for a week then the 2nd week take 1 e pill/day for a week, then repeat. Thats all I know.

[The Master]

STAY AWAY FROM THE PILLS

First cycle always 500mg Test E EW....Do alot of reasearch read articals and steroid profiles which you can find in this site...
If you dont know how to use gear that means that you're not spose to be using it.
Most of the Test pills if not all are total crap...

[marx62]

Originally Posted by DamienPriest

The usual story here I met someone at the gym through a lifting partner that is selling testosterone and estrogen pills, now I am not to sure if I want to take these because I know nothing about these items. Is there a good article to read?
He told me to take 2 t pills/day for a week then the 2nd week take 1 e pill/day for a week, then repeat. Thats all I know.

Dude's goofing on you, an 'e' pill? C'mon now, WTF? Stay away from the loser!

[DamienPriest]

Originally Posted by marx62

Dude's goofing on you, an 'e' pill? C'mon now, WTF? Stay away from the loser!

So you are saying there is no such thing as an estrogen pill?

I am 99.9% sure I will be staying away from anything. I do not plan on competing so I am in no rush and am enjoying the natural gains I have made already in my short return. But still am looking for as much info as I can just to keep my options open.

[Thomas_Rivera]

Not all oral pills are crap, they have higher liver toxicity than injectables, but can't really say they are crap.

Did the guy say what type of pills? Specifically names and dosages? If he's just saying testosterone and estrogen pills it might be just a scam, In my opinion I doubt that black market demand for estrogen pills would even be strong enough for ligitimate products to be spread out.

[DamienPriest]

The estrogen pills still had a label on them but can not remember the name or any other specs. The Test pills had the label removed.

[lil_big_junior]

Well there's your answer, don't take them. Don't trust these assholes man

[under construction]

Bodybuilding.com - Big Cat - 43 Full Steroid Profiles!
this is a good introduction but google more this is a long learning process also try to educate yourself on post cycle therapy. Ask questions about parts you dont understand pay close attention to responses you get from people like LBJ ,,Rocco ,Zomb, and TRiddy on this forum.

[Thomas_Rivera]

Someone can correct me if i'm wrong, but the steroid market like any market should be tierd. On the top of that tier the most popular steroids which will be most abundunt but most counterfitted, then a middle ground for steroids that aren't as popular or too expensive to counter fit, then at the bottom the stuff hardly anyone uses so when people do come up with a supply chances are its a scam.

Chances are these guys think you look desperate, maybe they see a older guy in the gym and think he's looking for some juice since he's working out.

[DamienPriest]

Thanx everyone I will do much reading and question asking.

[Johnnylight56]

gym rats are your worst enemy and even sometimes overseas pharmacies can be a scam.

i saw a show on the science channel called the science of steroids and they tested some viles from gym rats and a few overseas pharmacies and they found anything from flax seed oil, to motor oil in these viles and the sad thing is, they said the people who bought this stuff were intravenously injecting it and i almost shit a brick sideways at the stupidity especially when the bottle clearly says intramuscular use only.

[Thomas_Rivera]

Originally Posted by Johnnylight56

gym rats are your worst enemy and even sometimes overseas pharmacies can be a scam.

i saw a show on the science channel called the science of steroids and they tested some viles from gym rats and a few overseas pharmacies and they found anything from flax seed oil, to motor oil in these viles and the sad thing is, they said the people who bought this stuff were intravenously injecting it and i almost shit a brick sideways at the stupidity especially when the bottle clearly says intramuscular use only.

There are some good oversea companies, just got to watch out for fakes and rip offs. Most of the top companies will have security measures, holographic stickers, certain bottle designs. Some things you can look for are

Company Name
Steroid name
Sealed bottle

Then you can check online for the security measures. Holographic stickers, company logos, if its an oral steroids there will be some comapnies that sell certain sizes, color of tablets, some companies put their insignia on the tablets themselves, lot numbers. Do your research, I would suggest not buying stuff from a company that has been out of business for a few years even if someone says they have a large cache of it.