Best Over the Counter

johnnyairwaves · 03-09-2008, 04:22 PM

Can anyone recommend the best OTC or Behind the Glass supp that comes close to mimic'ing DBOL or an injection?

johnnyairwaves · 03-09-2008, 05:09 PM

I see quite a few Pro-Hormones out there that utilize Methylated Technology like Phera-Mass, Masterdol or Phera-Vol. I have no experience with Pro-Hormones and would like to know if anyone has had good results from these Over the Counter types or has any better suggestions.

**mm1snapper** · 03-09-2008, 06:37 PM

You can get decent results with pro-h's. Depending on your knowledge on diet lift and resting. But just becuase you can get somewhat of steroid like result from these doesnt mean you can completely stay legal. YOU MUST HAVE A SERM FOR PCT. END OF STORY AND SERMS ARE ILLEGAL TO HAVE WITHOUT PERSCIPTION. Without a propper pct you will lose all or most of your gains making it a worthless attempt and waste of money and health.

ironfreak703 · 03-09-2008, 06:50 PM

dont use pro-hormones man.. they have more sides than results... this might sound weird.. and im not promoting anything... but i have tried that new plasma jet by gaspari... took it recently and i am on cycle... i was actually able to tell a diffrence in my workout the very first day i used it.. pumps so hard it was almost painfull... that is a good product if u are able to tell it is working even while u are cycleing.. give it a shot bro.. it is worth it for sure.. and u only take it eod too... nice

blue524432 · 03-09-2008, 08:36 PM

Nothing will come close to AAS as far as results and pro hormones even though they are legal are just as dangerous maybe even more dangerous in some cases than AAS with all of the sides of AAS and about 1/10 of the gains. But AAS is very safe once you know what you are doing. Had a friend who took PH's and got gyno, because he didnt have anything to stop the gyno when it appeared he will now have to have surgery. So in my Opinion I would not ever ever ever touch PH's!

Schism · 03-09-2008, 11:45 PM

Superdrol or P-plex is as close as your going to get to real gear as they are both very potent steroids in there active form. As posted above you WILL need a proper pct built around a SERM.

Kneedamage · 03-10-2008, 12:13 AM

agreed with MM1

**Zomb131** · 03-10-2008, 01:01 AM

meh...nothing can replace the real thing.

**ZackKnight** · 03-12-2008, 09:57 AM

try small stuff like Tribulus or other pro-testosterone boosters first.

That and you should max out your body naturally before you even think of touching gear or pro-hormones. People want that quick fix, but it's not going to come over night. Besides, doing it naturally for as long as possible first will give you time to research gear and to get into a healthy and active lifestyle that will lengthen your life. It's just a process, but it's a good idea.

johnnyairwaves · 03-12-2008, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ZackKnight

try small stuff like Tribulus or other pro-testosterone boosters first.

That and you should max out your body naturally before you even think of touching gear or pro-hormones. People want that quick fix, but it's not going to come over night. Besides, doing it naturally for as long as possible first will give you time to research gear and to get into a healthy and active lifestyle that will lengthen your life. It's just a process, but it's a good idea.

Tried a Trib stack(High Saponis %) along with ZMA and nothing. Any opinions on Fizogen's M1-Bol?

**ZackKnight** · 03-12-2008, 11:16 AM

i dunno, i tend to stay away from anything with drol or bol at the end haha

Schism · 03-12-2008, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnyairwaves

Tried a Trib stack(High Saponis %) along with ZMA and nothing. Any opinions on Fizogen's M1-Bol?

I wouldn't waste money on anything put out by Fizogen!! Good marketing sh!t products IMO. What are your goals for this cycle your looking at because there are alot of good designers out right now but like I said the best choice depends on your goals.

thenewbreed · 03-13-2008, 12:27 AM

mdrol and hdrol then finish with a pct. gasp.nova maybe whatever u like. competitive edge labs makes m and hdrol they mimic the old superdrol and halodrol helped a friend of mine put on 10 lbs. milk thistle extract i think he used also. try and do some research too everybodys body responds diff. to diff. chemicals as with training or diet or anything bb related so research and expieriment. good luck