How long should I wait?

Determined 08 · 03-08-2008, 03:13 AM

So I've been looking through ALOT of forums on steriods. One of my friends can easily access them but I've been wary of them cause I'm only 18. Be 19 soon. Bodybuilding is my life without a doubt. Its my reason for waking up every morning. I started out at 135 August 2006 to 205 March 2008 all-natural. This made me believe its my calling in life. Like it was pre determined by God. My question is should I really wait til I'm 21 to start taking juice. I know plenty of pro, ams, and others who started early and were fine. What's so bad about starting out at 19? Really need help cause I might be buying them in the next couple of weeks unless someone changes my mind. Last thing about dying young. I DON'T CARE HOW YOU YOUNG I DIE AS LONG AS THEY BURY ME IN A BIG F**KING BOX!!!!! Yeah I think I like it to much, lol!

**Thomas_Rivera** · 03-08-2008, 03:15 AM

Most people here will say 21 years old and 5 years of hard training.

Determined 08 · 03-08-2008, 03:20 AM

Yeah but what's so bad with 19. Besides the obvious side effects

**Thomas_Rivera** · 03-08-2008, 04:56 AM

You haven't met your natural testosterone peak at 19 yet. Men meet their test peak around early 20s.

BarbarianWarrior · 03-08-2008, 06:50 AM

Ya, at this age, our levels of testosterone are naturally very high. So taking it at this age I guess is sort of a waste. I honestly am not even considering it for another 2 to 3 years(i'm 20 right now). Take advantage of your natural levels now, train hard and eat well and see where you are in a year or 2. Going from 130 to 205 in 2 years is pretty good. I went from 175 to 230 in a year with just eating well, creatine and obviously protein. Anyways, thats my 2 cents. Choose wisely!

blue524432 · 03-08-2008, 09:40 AM

Determined, If you gained 70 lbs. in 2 years that is alot and if it is quality then keep going, dont worry about gear at 19. I know everyone wants everything now and not later but your young and have plenty of time and it looks like you have made good gains. Just keep eating good and working hard.

Determined 08 · 03-08-2008, 02:55 PM

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Determined, If you gained 70 lbs. in 2 years that is alot and if it is quality then keep going, dont worry about gear at 19. I know everyone wants everything now and not later but your young and have plenty of time and it looks like you have made good gains. Just keep eating good and working hard.

Yeah guys I've make really good gains but you know the pressure of wanting to take them. I'm not worried about natural test levels mainly because I'd be taking them until I stopped working out when I'm 50 or whenever I'm not able to. Its just hard I'm sure ya'll understand. I'm just going crazy about the whole waiting thing.

Kneedamage · 03-08-2008, 04:59 PM

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Yeah guys I've make really good gains but you know the pressure of wanting to take them. I'm not worried about natural test levels mainly because I'd be taking them until I stopped working out when I'm 50 or whenever I'm not able to. Its just hard I'm sure ya'll understand. I'm just going crazy about the whole waiting thing.

You dont need to keep taking them unless youre holding so much mass that your natural levels cannot keep up.

The bad part about taking it at 19 is, You can still grow (ive seen it, SOME people will sprout another 2 inches at 21..). Its not so much that your test levels are peaked, Because a 500mg cycle is FAR more than the 70-80mg(i think thats the number) the average man makes.. YEA you can grow a lot easier at this age, but still not to a steroidal level or even close, SO, thats a bad way of discouraging somebody.

Theres a chance you can permanently mess up your endrocrine system, Meaning test levels, and estrogen levels are fucked up for life. Though I would say the chances of this are slim, it can happen, probably to any age group though.

Biggest thing about this age is probably that your still growing, and until you've reached through puberty (21-24yrs of age), youre body isnt maxed out, and taking steroids could halt any more growing.

I've been told with a cycle, youre natty test will continue to rise even afterwards, to its peek, but I cannot vouch for its validity.

All in all, youre going to do what you want, I just thought i'd give you the truth. I wouldnt do it, but thats me, if you intend to be Mr.O, your going to take such high doses anyway, that your system WILL be fucked up, no matter WHAT age you start at.

Determined 08 · 03-08-2008, 05:08 PM

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All in all, youre going to do what you want, I just thought i'd give you the truth. I wouldnt do it, but thats me, if you intend to be Mr.O, your going to take such high doses anyway, that your system WILL be fucked up, no matter WHAT age you start at.

LMAO! That's the point I don't care if I die at 50 as long as I'm big. That may sound f'd up but its the cold hard facts. Thanks for your input though I look forward to more replies from you and others.

Kneedamage · 03-08-2008, 05:24 PM

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LMAO! That's the point I don't care if I die at 50 as long as I'm big. That may sound f'd up but its the cold hard facts. Thanks for your input though I look forward to more replies from you and others.

Lol, wow youre just an idiot arent you?

Determined 08 · 03-08-2008, 05:53 PM

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Lol, wow youre just an idiot arent you?

Nah man I had a 4.3GPA all through high school and a 4.0 in college. I just want it more then other and am willing to scarifice 30 years of life to reach that goal. Call me crazy but I will be big no matter the costs. Some say ignorance is bliss but I'm not taking them without a doctor watching my body and plenty of research.

Johnnylight56 · 03-08-2008, 07:05 PM

The rule to bodybuilding goes like this, compete naturally and win a few shows and if you can't win shows on your own then you won't win them with the juice.

each pro will tell you that before you even consider using steroids get to a contest level naturally and i know that alot of them don't do it that way but think of all the amatuers who are waiting to win pro cards and are on steroids just becuase you use steroids doesn't guarantee you to be professional think smart before you decide to use something that could end up killing you if you aren't careful especially being as young as you are.

and you being as ignorant as you are about using them you should do some research on pro's cycles and realize that they inject 6-10 different steroids plus growth hormones, insulin, thyroid drugs, and they use street drugs such as speed to get through the workouts and downers at night to go to sleep plus diuretics to drop water before contest, diuretics are a blood pressure medication they aren't meant for what bodybuilders use them for and you need to realize its not just steroids that you have to pay for every month or year or however long. you have to spend money on food, and supplements if you use them, and if you aren't sponsored all that comes out of your pocket you aren't given any of it like pro's that you find in the magazines that you think they live this glamourous life because they don't, possibly spending money on gym memberships to get the workouts done its a ruff life which is why bodybuilding isn't taken as seriously as it should be because of all the drugs involved.

and also since you don't care if you would die at 50 as long as you are big, well whats going to happen if you take all those drugs and never win a show and never come close to being pro then you've fucked your life and your body up and will possibly die for no reason at all is that really worth it? i cant imagine muscles being worth my life i enjoy life too much to wanna ruin it for something like that. if that doesn't change your mind then you're doomed to face reality in a hard way.