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Old 03-07-2008, 11:33 PM   #1
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Im having a tough time deciding whether to run a test E cycle for 12-14 weeks..

Or a test P cycle, which I imagine wouldnt need as much time (thinking ahead of time, about recovery!) To gain as much, because its a short ester..

ALTHOUGH

Suspension would see gains faster i would IMAGINE, but a lot of pinning is needed.

Now I know Test-e takes about 5 weeks to start acting, but I dont know much about the other two, does anybody want to give some details about them if you could?
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Old 03-08-2008, 01:22 AM   #2
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Test P you'll have a more quality gain. As for the Test Suspension, it's more painfull than any other Test I've ever pinned, I don't mind pinning Prop ED or EOD but Suspension I hated with passion. I don't think I ever completed a full cycle on it cos it hurt so much. However you will see quick gains from it, I'd say similar to Prop, just more painful, & harder to find. I'd stick to Prop IMO

Weeks 1-12 - Test E 500mg EW 2 pins
Weeks 1-4 - 50mg Dbol
Weeks 2-12 - Test P EOD pins 300mg ED

PCT on Clomid for 4 weeks then if needed do another 2 but tapper dosage
50\50\50\50\25\25
Keeping Nolva on hip incase of any Gyno sides
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Old 03-08-2008, 01:27 AM   #3
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Weeks 1-12 - Test E 500mg EW 2 pins
Weeks 1-4 - 50mg Dbol
Weeks 2-12 - Test P EOD pins 300mg ED
This would be my FIRST cycle.. I wouldnt think dbol would be needed, and Test E AND P? thats a lot of test man.. Wouldnt that be overdoing it?

I was really thinking about just running test p, to gain quick and not have to run it is long as E, So that I recover much quicker in PCT..

P doesnt need to be run as long because it kicks in much faster, and gains just as good, Am I wrong in stating this?

If the above is true than why not Test P at 500-600mg's run by itself for 8 weeks? OR is that too short for P?
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Old 03-08-2008, 01:54 AM   #4
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This would be my FIRST cycle.. I wouldnt think dbol would be needed, and Test E AND P? thats a lot of test man.. Wouldnt that be overdoing it?

I was really thinking about just running test p, to gain quick and not have to run it is long as E, So that I recover much quicker in PCT..

P doesnt need to be run as long because it kicks in much faster, and gains just as good, Am I wrong in stating this?

If the above is true than why not Test P at 500-600mg's run by itself for 8 weeks? OR is that too short for P?
Man you need to put some more time in researching brotha.

If this is your first cycle stick to a simple 12 week cycle on Test E alone with a kickstart on DBol or OT.

Weeks 1-12 500mg Test E EW split into 2 pins
Weeks 1-4 Dbol 30-50mg ED
Then PCT 2 weeks after final pin on Clomid, keeping NOlva on hip
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Old 03-08-2008, 01:57 AM   #5
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Man you need to put some more time in researching brotha.

If this is your first cycle stick to a simple 12 week cycle on Test E alone with a kickstart on DBol or OT.

Weeks 1-12 500mg Test E EW split into 2 pins
Weeks 1-4 Dbol 30-50mg ED
Then PCT 2 weeks after final pin on Clomid, keeping NOlva on hip
So Im wrong about the above?

Will do more research about P, I only know about E right now.

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Research is the key bro. I mean YEARS of reading on gear & keeping natty till you understand them. Getting diet & training into check is the first rule. I'd get reading man
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Old 03-08-2008, 02:07 AM   #7
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Research is the key bro. I mean YEARS of reading on gear & keeping natty till you understand them. Getting diet & training into check is the first rule. I'd get reading man
Ive always been told keep it simple with test e.. I read a lot about test e, and basically Test e only.. haha

I could complete a test-e/dbol cycle safetly with my knowledge of it..
And diet is in great order, 7 months in and have hit my stats..

As for other compounds, I do not know, I was just considering the fact that I May be able to get same gains in less time (thus less time shut-down).

I realize its pretty soon to do a cycle, and I dont plan to do one untill im 1 1/2years in to 2 years.. By then with my diet and training, I should have hit my limit no doubt(im very spot-on, as I have seen no-one acquire my gains natty in this period of time, NOT to blow my own horn, just sayin').

But I will do research on other compounds, its best that I gather my own knowledge anyway I suppose, and not just from hear-say and rumors or whatnot.

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