Great First Cycle

StayBig · 06-21-2005, 08:57 PM

(THIS WAS A REQUEST, I AM POSTING FOR CERTAIN VIEWERS.

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This is a post for everyone who wants to take a cycle that will leave you with great gains, is relatively safe, does not cause "water bloat" or "gyno" and does not require PCT (post cycle therapy) such as nolvadex / hcg (which hurts to inject) / or clomid which does not work. You might experience light acne from this cycle however. But it's well worth it for the gains. Keep in mind that these are weak drugs however (less androgenic), and will not offer gains as quickly as testosterone and dianabol, but the gains you put on will be lean mass, and not water bloat.

8 Weeks long / Drugs needed: 2,000mg Primobolan Depot / 1,120mg Anavar / 1,400mg Winstrol (Tabs not injection) This is a total of 20 shots.

Injectables:
Monday of week 1 begin with 300mg of Primobolan. Then inject 100mg every other three days. The 300mg is to front load and get a nice kick start going. So it would be a total of twenty shots, on these days: Monday 300mg/ Thursday 100mg/ Sunday 100mg/ Wednesday 100mg/ Saturday 100mg/ Tuesday 100mg/ Friday 100mg/ Monday 100mg/ Thursday 100mg/ Sunday 100mg/ Wednesday 100mg/ Saturday 100mg/ Tuesday 100mg/ Friday 100mg/ Monday 100mg/ Thursday 100mg/ Sunday 100mg/ Wednesday 100mg/ Saturday 100mg/ Tuesday 100mg

Orals:
Monday of week 1 begin with 40mg of anavar for the first 28 days, try to split up the dosage evenly through out the day (3-4 times.) The next 28 days, take 50mg of winstrol tabs split up evenly through out the day as well.

Keep a diet high in protein, and high in calories. Wait patiently for the gains, it will take time before you notice any major strength or weight gains. Don't overtain, this is not a cycle of Test Propionate where you get stronger immediately. Take your time in the gym, don't expect quick gains. If you can no longer grow off of this dosage, it's either time to stop, or increase the Primobolan Depot dosage, and not to oral drugs. Good Luck.

**fahad** · 06-22-2005, 02:16 AM

hey bro u ise steroids...

Q80_MuscleHed · 06-22-2005, 04:39 AM

did u try this cycle ?

StayBig · 06-22-2005, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by q80_muscleHed

did u try this cycle ?

As much as I want to say "Yes I did, so it's the best," the truth is, no I did not. It would be my next cycle but I'm going to wait like two more years until I'm 23. Then it's time. I've juiced before, but the drugs that work best in my opinion are the three above that are mentioned.

Q80_MuscleHed · 06-23-2005, 02:09 AM

but how it would be safe .. did u mean the dosage is not high so that's make it safe .. and how can u raise ur natural test levels without PCT ?

GoingBiG · 06-23-2005, 12:00 PM

Of course it requires a postcycle... Do i have to find studies showing how even anavar will shut you down over time? It's obvious... When doing steroids you always have to do postcycle!

StayBig · 06-23-2005, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GoingBiG

Of course it requires a postcycle... Do i have to find studies showing how even anavar will shut you down over time? It's obvious... When doing steroids you always have to do postcycle!

Please show me studies, references or links to why you need PCT after anavar, winstrol or primo. (I'm not recommending to cycle for more than 8 weeks with it and also with low dosages.) I'm not trying to be cocky, I just want to see that for my self to believe it. Thanks in advance.

StayBig · 06-23-2005, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by fahad

hey bro u ise steroids...

Do I use steroids? Or are you saying you take steroids??

Q80_MuscleHed · 06-24-2005, 05:47 AM

[quote=StayBig
This is a post for everyone who wants to take a cycle that will leave you with great gains, is relatively safe, does not cause "water bloat" or "gyno" and does not require PCT (post cycle therapy) such as nolvadex / hcg (which hurts to inject) / or clomid which does not work.[/QUOTE]

thats what i meant .. you mentioned that the cycle doen't require PCT

GoingBiG · 06-24-2005, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by StayBig

Please show me studies, references or links to why you need PCT after anavar, winstrol or primo. (I'm not recommending to cycle for more than 8 weeks with it and also with low dosages.) I'm not trying to be cocky, I just want to see that for my self to believe it. Thanks in advance.

I will dig up the studie... I'll be back

StayBig · 06-24-2005, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GoingBiG

I will dig up the studie... I'll be back

I'm only inquiring because every source I read has said that anavar primo and winstrol don't require PCT if used in moderate dosages for no longer than 8 weeks.

Winstorl: Never requires PCT, although the gains are very weak. Can be used for 8-10 weeks before casuing noticable liver damage.

Anavar: Used to speed up puberty in children with growth delays, not liver toxic except for prolonged periods of use (It is considered safe to give to patients who suffer from liver diseases.) Also is not suppressive.

Primobolan: Non-toxic, does not require PCT as long as no more than 300mg max per week for 8 weeks has been used.

www.steroidtips.com

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catsteroids.htm

There are many other sources I have read this from as well. I'm not trying to be cocky, I'm just trying to see where you read this. Thanks

GoingBiG · 06-24-2005, 07:01 PM

I will get the study tomorrow... Think i have deleted it... But a friend of mine will send it tomorrow... Actually it's pretty logical...

When you are getting exogen "testosterone" your body won't have no reason to make it self... So it will down regulate your natural testosterone level... And when running cycles on 8 weeks it will shut your HPTA down...

The study is showing how much you are shut down after 6 days of anavar if im not totally wrong...

pumpingiron · 06-24-2005, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by StayBig

www.steroidtips.com

Just visited that site and read the side effects. Same stuff SmallButGettingThere listed a few weeks back. That site is not good and don't believe what they write!

StayBig · 06-24-2005, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by pumpingiron

Just visited that site and read the side effects. Same stuff SmallButGettingThere listed a few weeks back. That site is not good and don't believe what they write!

I'm not trying to be an ass, but why is that site not good and who are you to say so??