[schuman0408]

Hi everyone. this is my first thread. I'm about to start my 3rd cycle. It will be a tbol only cycle. Please don't burn me on not running it with a test base because my last cycle was actually a test only cycle and I received some gyno. I'm also not interested in a test based cycle because Im not looking to be on for another 10 weeks. Ive chosen tbol to run becasue its mildness, its fat burning properties, and its moderate but keepable gains. I have 100 10 mg tabs of tbol. From reading around, it sounds as though tbol gains really start to kick in around week 3. My question is with a bodyweight of 225 and a goal of making small gains in lean mass while decrease overall bodyfat a bit, would it be wiser to run 20 mgs a day for 50 days, 30 mgs a day for 33 days, 40 mgs a day for 25 days, or 50 mgs a day for 20 days?

Thank you guys

[schuman0408]

my plan was to start the cycle tomorow so anyone with any input or opinions, it would be very well appreciated

[schuman0408]

help please??? anybody with any thoughts??

[Zomb131]

^ you need help.

First off, if you get gyno from Test don't pussy out. Take Nolva/A-dex and eat.

20mg day? What is that? At least 50mg/day. And why would you taper up?

[heath95]

I have been doing some research man the only thing i could find is that tbol is great yes little to no sides but gyno is possible, little to no bloat but the kicker is that it has to be used in high dosages 50 to 100mgs and longer than six weeks it can also be used longer with no ill effects that stuff is pricey though. I did not seen anything on its fat burning properties though, i had seen where it said if stacked along with primo it makes for a great leaning stack. When you were on test did you keep nolva just incase of gyno sides? sorry if this is no help im looking up more as we speak

[heath95]

zombi is the man take his word as gold he help me alot

[schuman0408]

once the gyno started flaring up i got my hands on some novla and it didnt excactly subside, but it didnt get any worse. and zombi i wasnt planning on tapering up, iwas just listing all of those ideas as possible choices for the tbol that i currently have available to me. but i agree that u guys have convinced me to purchase more tbol so im going to buy another 100 tabs and run 50 mg a day for 40 days which is just about 6 weeks.

[schuman0408]

is there any way i could do the tbol at 50 mgs for 20 days and then follow it with a bottle of hdrol i have sitting around?

[schuman0408]

and then a pct consisting of nolvadex of course.

[heath95]

clomid is better

[schuman0408]

makes me feel like a woman

[mindstar]

you may need to use a-dex for gyno for test cycles
Adex at .5mg EOD works great for me.

Tbol onlt isn't going to lean you out but your diet might. I personally like Var and Test for leaning. I've never done Tren, but I hear good things about it for leaning as well.

Personally I'm not a fan of a tbol only cycle, but if you're going to do it I say 70mg/day for 8 weeks.

[JDIESEL]

Originally Posted by schuman0408

is there any way i could do the tbol at 50 mgs for 20 days and then follow it with a bottle of hdrol i have sitting around?

there would be no point of running tbol for only 20 days then switching it...if your gonna.... do just tbol then stick with it through the whole cycle and forget the hdrol. also tbol does not have any fat burning properties in it. imo i think this cycle would be a waste your not gonna see any big changes with tbol...depending on your diet you could see very little results at all.

[schuman0408]

hm. im discouraged. maybe itd just be best to keep the tbol in the drawer for awhile till i can get my hands on some more and some test and arimidex...