[gnc_1]

im ready to start my next cycle in about 4 weeks and im looking to using the axio lab's and i weight as of now 195lbs and 5"9 and im looking to loose 10 to 15 lbs and try my best to keep my muscle and keep my strength gains this is what my cycle is going to look like...i will diet on this cycle as well

1-10 test e 500mg a week
1-4 Dbol oral 50mg ED
6-10 Turanaplex....not sure on how much i need to take

this will be my second cycle...i have heard that when you are on the turanaplex that you will notice your veins will go crazy but i dont know you tell me

[Zomb131]

increase cycle length to 12 weeks....is that Turanaplex t-bol??? If so run it the first 4 weeks instead of the last.

[heath95]

^^^yea its axio labs version

[roccodart440]

HOw many cycles have you done?

Axio labs is good stuff.

IF you re looking to cut i'd drop the dbol.

What compounds have you run so far in past cycles?

500mg test is ok. Personally I'd run more. 750-1g

If you were to use the dbol I disagree with zommb. I like the way you have it placed

I do agree with zomb about increasing the duration of the cycle to at leasrt 12 weeks.

Tbol is great. Period. 40mg ED is a good dose. The only thing that makes you veins go crazy is llosing fat. Tbol will lean you down. It will also make you strong.

[gnc_1]

my past cycle was all from axio labs

250 mg test E/1-10 weeks
pct was clomid and nolva for 3 weeks straight

but im thinking of dropping the tbol and replacing it with anavar and doing it for 4 weeks of my cycle...i know that var is high but i think it's worth it

as for the test im either going to run 500 mg test e or 650 mg sustaplex not sure yet but let me hear your options on what i should run

[ironfreak703]

axio had been one of the more upper scale labs i have tried.. due to the awsome gains and clean gear

[mperk]

Originally Posted by ironfreak703

axio had been one of the more upper scale labs i have tried.. due to the awsome gains and clean gear

Iron-Man - How did you determine the axio was "clean" and how would you evalutae other gear to determine it wasn't? price?

Thanks

[lil_big_junior]

He means it's great quality gear

[Determined 08]

Originally Posted by lil_big_junior

He means it's great quality gear

Yo your inbox is full this is the only way I could get this to you, lol! SORRY!

I'm fairly new here and you seem pretty popular so if you have the time. Here is my current split. Its a two days on one day off deal.

Chest/Bi's
Legs/calves
Off
Back/Traps
Shoulder/Tri's
Off
Repeat

Know of a better split for more mass. I've been at a sticking point for a little.

Also I saw you give someone this training for tri's:
skullcrushers 5X10
close grip bench 5X10
weighted dips 5X10
rope press downs 3X20
barbell extentions 3X10
kickbacks 6Xfailure
cable press downs for the final burn 6Xfailure

Isn't this a little much for someone doing it natural for now. I generally do 20sets at most of arms. Should I be doing more?

THANKS FOR THE TIME!!! Just message me back if you can

[mperk]

Originally Posted by lil_big_junior

He means it's great quality gear

Thanks LBJ - Got that, but for a noob like me- if you have 2 amps of sust for example - how do you tell one is great and the other is cut with olive oil? is it in the packaging that it looks legit or the color, etc. And what about these newer producers like Balkan Pharma - how do you know if it's good shit or just cooked up in some second rate lab? I am concerned if I get some gear - how would I know that it was clean if I had never taken it before? I had this problem with the clen I got recently - got 2 batches from different sources - one packed a punch the other didn't - could be me but I think the weenie one was cut with some placebo shit.

Sorry for the long winded response.

Thanks, bud.