[BGood]

ok thanx for ripping my first attempt to shreds guys here's what i'm thinkin now...

Wk 1-12: Test E 400-500mg EW
Wk 1-4: DBol 30 mg Ed
Wk 1-12: Nolvadex
Wk 4-12: HCG ( do you guys think thats really necessary or not)???
Wk 13-14: OFF
Wk 15-21: PCT-Clomid and Nolvadex tappering down towards week 6

Let me know wat you guys think and if u think i need the HCG

I also read ROCCO telling a guy to take his dbol the LAST four weeks of his cycle. Now i had always heard to take it at the beginning as a "jumpstarter"????

[gringo220]

Runt the test e at 500 mg. I'd run the dbol like you said. I wouldn't use the nolva unless you need it for bloat or gyno. You'll know if the gyno is starting. hcg is up to you. Some people believe in it and some don't. I've used it and not used it. Your nuts will come back to almost norman if not normal if you don't use it. As long as you have the right amount in your pct you'll be fine.

[BGood]

ok i can do 500 i was just thinkin since i only weigh 165 maybe i should do lighter mg's then wats recommended to most ppl??

[gringo220]

500mg is an even 2ml's a week. It keeps it simple and easy. I wouldn't worry about how much you weigh because 500mg's isn't that much. I've ran 1 gram before and was fine. See how you take 500mg's and up it your next cycle or try some sust or my favorite omnidren. Good luck with your cycle!

[BGood]

thanx man and ya i think i'm gonna take sus and like winny or equipoise stacked on my next cycle i hear omnidrens good but hurts like a son of a bitch!

[gringo220]

Originally Posted by BGood

thanx man and ya i think i'm gonna take sus and like winny or equipoise stacked on my next cycle i hear omnidrens good but hurts like a son of a bitch!

Yup I made more gains of of that than any other gear. And yes it hurt me for the first while but I got used to it. My first shot I couldn't sit on my right butt cheek for like 5 days.

[heath95]

The dbol looks good don't use the nolva like posted above it will hurt your gains keep it close by in case gyno decides to show. the hcg's I would start in week three and run it thoughout week 12 I have hcg's also but I think its more trouble than its worth plus adding more test in your system could cause more gyno problems. if you do run it the doseage is 250iu 2x a week, get in alot water also liver protection start 2 weeks before cycle 1500mg's of milk thisle and increase to 2000mg while on. I can't wait to run sus myself I heard its great as for dbol it the last weeks, Im going to be using test p 150mg weeks 12 to 14 150mg eod

[lil_big_junior]

I covered your question in your last post

[The U]

hey this is BGoods workout partner lol thanks for the suggestions!

[Zomb131]

Originally Posted by BGood

ok thanx for ripping my first attempt to shreds guys here's what i'm thinkin now...

Wk 1-12: Test E 400-500mg EW
Wk 1-4: DBol 30 mg Ed
Wk 1-12: Nolvadex
Wk 4-12: HCG ( do you guys think thats really necessary or not)???
Wk 13-14: OFF
Wk 15-21: PCT-Clomid and Nolvadex tappering down towards week 6

Let me know wat you guys think and if u think i need the HCG

I also read ROCCO telling a guy to take his dbol the LAST four weeks of his cycle. Now i had always heard to take it at the beginning as a "jumpstarter"????

Looks good....HCG is a personal choice, but i do it to keep my nuts nice and full looking.

You can run D-bols from the day of your last pin till 2 days before PCT starts to end the cycle good. Instead of waiting for the Test to wear off. You could also use Test Prop for this as well 150mg/EOD

[BGood]

if i decide not to take HCG is there anything else i can to lessen my chances of shrunken nuts!?

[gringo220]

Originally Posted by BGood

if i decide not to take HCG is there anything else i can to lessen my chances of shrunken nuts!?

Not really that I know of. They come back to normal or close to normal so don't worry to much.

[BGood]

alright cool...... i think i'm gonna be takin about 30 -40 mg of DBol for the first four weeks... does that sounda bout right?