Beginning Cycle

blue524432 · 01-17-2008, 02:00 PM

Never done steroids, and will not for a while. Went to the doctor today to get blood tests done to make sure I am optimum and why I am so tired. My bio is im 6'3-4 225 lbs. 27 years old, bench 370 the other day, can d-lift 550 or so. I am not planning on doing them yet but after some research I will run a cycle of Test E 400 mg once a week for 12 weeks and D-bol 20 mg for 5 weeks at the beginning. Followed up with Clomid 50 mg and Nolva 40 mg for 5 weeks after last injection. This is if I can find someone who is reliable enough that I can trust. But I think I am going to try to get up to 240 lower my body fat by 5% and bench 450 and dead lift 650 before I even think about doing this. What do you all think.

blue524432 · 01-17-2008, 04:14 PM

Any thoughts or suggestions?

yosahab · 01-17-2008, 05:57 PM

What is your diet, training, workout history and training like now? Just judging from you saying you are thinking of doing test e 400 mgs once a week, tells me that you have a lot more research to do.

blue524432 · 01-17-2008, 07:03 PM

My diet is very good, I have been working out since I was 15 and am a former athlete. My training is good and I can clean around 300 on top of the 370 bench and 550 deadlift which means I have been training for a while. 200 mg. 2 times per week, I meant 400 per week.

blue524432 · 01-17-2008, 07:05 PM

I have always been stronger than most people that were on them anyways, at least around here, but Im getting older and fatigued easier, but I workout hard as crap and Im going to go natural for quite a while longer and it is something I am considering if I can find a reliable source.

blue524432 · 01-17-2008, 07:06 PM

I dont need huge gains, I want nice steady gains.

TRiddy05 · 01-17-2008, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by blue524432

Never done steroids, and will not for a while. Went to the doctor today to get blood tests done to make sure I am optimum and why I am so tired. My bio is im 6'3-4 225 lbs. 27 years old, bench 370 the other day, can d-lift 550 or so. I am not planning on doing them yet but after some research I will run a cycle of Test E 400 mg once a week for 12 weeks and D-bol 20 mg for 5 weeks at the beginning. Followed up with Clomid 50 mg and Nolva 40 mg for 5 weeks after last injection. This is if I can find someone who is reliable enough that I can trust. But I think I am going to try to get up to 240 lower my body fat by 5% and bench 450 and dead lift 650 before I even think about doing this. What do you all think.

Up the Dbol to 35mg ED minimum 40-50mg ED would be better. Id run Test E 500mg/week not 400mg. I mean 400mg is definetly supraphysiological I just think that you would have better results at 500mg per week and no difference in sides. Plus your a pretty big dude so I think you would be better off at that dose. Have an AI on hand durring cycle like Arimidex or Aromisin incase gyno or bloating become a problem. Other than that sounds good. Good Luck.

blue524432 · 01-17-2008, 08:29 PM

Thanks TRiddy, I hope to get up to 235-240 before I leap in. And hopefully by that time I can find a trustworthy source. I work out at home with some other guys from my company, I own a decent sized company (12 employees), so it is harder to find a source since I dont workout at a membership gym.

blue524432 · 01-18-2008, 08:09 AM

Should I just go ahead and take Arimidex anyways, just in case?

blue524432 · 01-18-2008, 05:02 PM

I had read an earlier article and saw a post from Rocco that said to take D-bol the last 4 weeks of the cycle not the first? Also to just use Aromasin because it was superior to Nolvadex?

blue524432 · 01-18-2008, 05:26 PM

And also should I split the d-bol into two or three different times per day, like 10 in the morn 10 pre workout and 5 post? Just wondering want to get this right.

**lil_big_junior** · 01-18-2008, 09:06 PM

500mg of Test EW is a bare assed minimum dosage for anyone. For a first cycle, it's standard.
30mg of Dbol for most is relatively low. I'd personally push it up to 50mg ED. You're one of the bigger fellas on here, I'm sure you can handle it.

With what you got
Weeks 1-12 Test E 500mg EW
Weeks 1-4 Dbol
2 after last pin start PCT
6 weeks PCT on Clomid ED 50\50\50\50\25\25, fuck frontloading on Clomid, I use to do it myself, & now personally I think it's pointless going over 50mg ED.
Keep Nolva on the hip as a just incase, & maybe some Adex on hand incase of any Gyno sides or bloating whilst on cycle.

blue524432 · 01-19-2008, 10:46 AM

Weeks 1-12 Test E 500 mg EW
Weeks 1-4 Dbol 50 mg ED
2 weeks after last pin start PCT
6 weeks PCT on Clomid 50/50/50/50/25/25 ED and 6 weeks PCT on Nolvadex 20/20/20/20/10/10 ED
Will i need to incoroporate HCG right after? Why would I not use Arimidex .5mg ED on cycle just in case?

blue524432 · 01-19-2008, 10:47 AM

What do you all think about the cycle I just posted and please help me with the questions I asked.