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Old 01-09-2008, 03:56 PM   #1
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Hello, honestly I have never seriously thought about using anabolic steroids, but recently I find myself pounding the idea.
Everyone has their ups and downs, and recently I am having a bizarre mix. Let me introduce my case:

I am 19 years old and 20 in a couple of months (yes I have read about the advices of not starting till you are 21). I have been training with weights for almost 3 years vigorously and with enthusiasm.
I feel as if I am doing progress which I am very pleased with but I am not impressed considering all the time, effort and dedications I have put in in training and eating. I feel like if I need a push in the right direction.

I am trying to gain the knowledge I can, but having no one to personally guide me share their opinions makes anabolic steroids a scary business. I try reading up info on the web, but I only find dozens of loose ends.

I have finally decided to do something about it, so here I am asking for advice. I realize that there are many types of anabolic steroids and therefore there will be different effects and side effects on your body. What I am looking for is a single cycle that is easy and simple to exercise but that will allow to gain certain mass benefits for even after the cycle without loosing all of them. At the same time I want the cycle to have as few serious side effects and detection time as possible.

To be honest this is what scares me the most, knowledge is power and this is a subject that few are willing to talk about without telling you what they hear from all the bad cases. I am just curious and I don't want to do anything that I will regret, and you are the adequate people that I would listen to without questioning their source and experience.
 
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Old 01-09-2008, 04:04 PM   #2
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You will find all the info you require right here thats for sure.I know you dont want to hear it but IMO you havent been at it long enough to say you arent satisfied with the progress.
You might also get some advice here that will make you great gains w/o the use of them.Im not against them at all I just like for someone to get all they can w/o before starting them
 
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Old 01-09-2008, 04:13 PM   #3
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I wouldn't doubt you are going to get a few "Wait another couple of years" On this subject. The truth is you're young and it would be better for you to wait another year or two. Make all the natural gains you can before you start any type of steroids. When it comes down to it you want to do it the safest route and that would to start your research now and then in another year when you have a good amount of knowledge on the subject. Then you should make your decision on what you know and you would be better off rather then just jumping into it now.
 
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Old 01-09-2008, 04:15 PM   #4
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Sorry kaboom I posted over ya bro!
 
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Old 01-09-2008, 06:26 PM   #5
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Yeah you are right, it's not want I want to hear but it's what I should hear. It's just in my nature to be a little bone headed. I'm sure you understand that and you probably know that I didn't expect to hear anything else.

However I am still hoping to find an advice on any safer/shorter cycle I could go through that will have some effect specially keeping most mass gains even after the cycle.

I don't want to risk any of the severe side effects such as Heart/liver problems or overgrown organs. But at this rate curiosity is killing me. I was having some interest in deca durabolin but aside from the standard info I really don't know what I can expect from this in my case or how to put up the cycle.
 
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Old 01-09-2008, 07:51 PM   #6
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Yeah you are right, it's not want I want to hear but it's what I should hear. It's just in my nature to be a little bone headed. I'm sure you understand that and you probably know that I didn't expect to hear anything else.

However I am still hoping to find an advice on any safer/shorter cycle I could go through that will have some effect specially keeping most mass gains even after the cycle.

I don't want to risk any of the severe side effects such as Heart/liver problems or overgrown organs. But at this rate curiosity is killing me. I was having some interest in deca durabolin but aside from the standard info I really don't know what I can expect from this in my case or how to put up the cycle.
You are TOO young. At your age you risk more serious and permanent HPTA suppression as well as estrogenic fusing of your growth plates. That being said you are going to do what you are going to do so you may as well get the best advice possible to keep you from doing something stupid. Deca alone is a terrible idea. You will be shut down hard, and you will have no sex drive whatsoever. Also on an mg per mg basis its less effective than test. And you said you were concerned about it being in your system, is that because you are an athlete, because deca will reamin detectable in your system for a very long time like 5-6 months if I remember correctly. You wouldnt have heart or liver problems from a first cycle or even first 10 cycles if you ever had problems. Overgrown organs are the result of HGH not AAS. Keeping gains will depends on PCT, diet and training. If you dont know what that is do some research. If you decide to go through with it then I suggest 500mg of Test E per week for 10-12 weeks along with 40mg DBol ED for 4 weeks. I would advise you to wait, but if you decide to go through with it there is a lot of good information already on these boards about first cycles. Good luck.
 
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Old 01-10-2008, 03:11 AM   #7
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Old 01-10-2008, 08:44 AM   #8
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^^^
I did, however I didn't find what I was looking for.

I think I will go with your advice and put the idea on ice till I'm at least close to 21 or 21 years old. It's very interesting, tempting and exhilarating, but I will wait till it's safer and I gain more wisdom.

I don't know what HPTA or, Test E (Testosterone Enanthate?) or PCT means though (I've even tried Wikipedia). But comments like yours above are great for me to learn.
Shouldn't the cycle also be accompanied by something that helps your body to produce natural test and anti estrogen though?
 
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Old 01-10-2008, 01:34 PM   #9
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an Anti E should be on hand but doesn'tr neccessarily have to be used.

HPTA referes to the body system responsible for making (and regulating)your own sex hormones.

PCT is (post cycle therapy) it restors your HPTA function after AAS shut it down .
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Old 01-11-2008, 10:30 AM   #10
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When you say Test E, do you mean Testosterone Enanthate?

I think I'll be checking my hormone values at the doctor, just to map my current situation. Anything else I should check for in regards with training and the possibility of future hormone alteration?
 
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Old 01-11-2008, 11:27 AM   #11
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im not here to tell you whether you should or shouldnt use them... but make sure you read everything possible about what you are going to use, and how it will effect you good and bad. then read all the things that can go wrong. weight that against all the things that can go right. then make an educated descision... dont do them to get girls or boost your ego... also think how it will effect your future. ....... if you are planning to go into any kind of law enforcement.... you can for get it.

also know that once you start.... you may find it hard to stop.

whats the rush to get bigger and stronger... do you play a sport, or isit that spring break right around the corner
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When you say Test E, do you mean Testosterone Enanthate?

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Old 01-11-2008, 12:40 PM   #13
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