[MetalMX]

Ok I have previously used T4 and clen together. From October to November

Doing a cycle with the clen 2 on/1 off/2 on/1 off then i continued using the clen without time off. I know, I know!!!!! bad idea i experienced some weight loss now the weight rebound effect is happening!!!

The T4 i went from 100mcg to 300mcg max tapered through a total of 42 days. Too much T4 without any extra benefit it seems.

Since i have hypothyroidism already and ive taken clen for extended periods of time this has crushed my T3 levels! also the down regulation of beta 2 receptors is another whammy for me! If finally researched this.

Ok 5 days ago i started using the T3, Albuterol and Keto

T3, Albuterol, Keto
25 three 4mg tabs 2mg
25 three 4mg tabs 2mg
25 three 4mg tabs 2mg
25 four 4mg tabs 2mg
25 three 4mg tabs 2mg

My appetite has increased in the last couple of days since using this and i have added some weight.... im now not sure what i should do? Stop everything or what?

i think id need the ketotifen to use it to upregulate receptors so my body gets to normal again. How i can i use this effectively in my situation?

Im using the T3 tablets whats the best way to get back to normal with these?.

And the albuterol im not going to use.

I just want to fix all this and not use these compounds again. Could i use the T3 and Ketotifen to get my body back to normal? As this rebound weight gain is really disturbing!!!! :(

[JakeVendetta]

i really am at a loss of words... repeatedly everyone told you to wait until you saw the endo, before even thinking about messing around with thyroid hormones or anything else that pops into your head as a self-remedy, but as we have all come to realize you do whatever the fuck you want to anyways. If anyone even offers you the smallest bit of help i will be astonished.

[MetalMX]

Jake I just want to hit myself in the head with a frying pan right now. I have a schedule of everything i was taking on excel that i made i could probably print that out and give it to my endo or gp.

[YM123]

go and buy a book on steroids!!

[musclemaniac uk]

your problem is that you wanna use more chemicals to fix your first mistake and every downfall you have, in nearly all of your posts you are asking wat certain drugs can do to help your situation, instead of asking how your diet or other aspects of your lifestyle can help you. leave drugs alone until you are educated enough on how to use them safely. you can achieve plenty without drugs and hard work, so man up and get your diet and training in order first!

[roccodart440]

YOu should have waited to see the endo.

YOu should be on juice before even considering to play with clen or T3 or T4

There are better, safer alternatives to clen out there. Why anyone would fuck with c;len these days for weight loss is beyond my comprehension.

[MetalMX]

I know so many guys at my gym here. Its a small little gym but damn every brother is on the juice. A couple are popping thyroid tablets like vitamins and their huge ripped dudes. I think i might have over reacted, Today i woke up and im about 3.5kgs lighter. Properly from all the glycogen i was holding i forgot to mention i went out drinking the night before first time in a LONG time... celebrating with my mates and their band.

Anyway ill try not to be so stupid with these drugs in the future as you say they can mess you up. My problem is i just do things because i want the results and dont consider the possible consequences.

[Freak]

And everyone here dislikes you for it. When strangers care about your health more than you that should be a cause for concern and reflection on your part. How much do you value life?

Take 10 minutes and think about this:

What do you live for?

Quit posting about your current, past, present, or future drug use or you will be banned. Everyone is sick of your immaturity and lack of concern for life.

Prescription drugs are not a substitute for hard work.

[MetalMX]

I work hard man. Its just i have medical problems that i'm trying to solve by myself which i shouldn't be.

Bodybuilding should improve your health and your life. For me i've become so pre-occupied with it that its decreased the quality of my life. Anyway i'm going to stop messing with any drugs from now on and get my health in order.

Your guys are all cool and i'd like to be a part of the dungeon as none of my other mates understand me or my bodybuilding. I'll start posting about my training and diet and you guys can give that a rating :)

[anthk]

well rocco what do you suggest is better and safer the clen??
i'm in melbourne so i'm very intrested in what i can get that is better and safer.

[Freak]

See a Dr. it's that simple.

[JakeVendetta]

Originally Posted by roccodart440

Have you tried notor by at large nutrition? Thermorexin?

How about trimspa x32?

How about ECA?

Clen is shit IMHO and i'd recomend oyou avoid it.

From another thread.