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Will AAS or Anti-E's elevate low Test production?
Old 10-21-2007, 01:01 AM   #1
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Im just curious will Anabolic steroids help to elevate testosterone production if someone is suffering from hypogonadism? and will Anti-Estrogens have that same effect?

Do these substances help to permanently maintain normal T levels in the long run and if you discontinue their use will you be able to maintain adequate T levels in your blood?

Finally is hypothyroidism and/or a high TSH (Thyroid Stimulating Hormone) level a possible reason why T levels are low?

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Old 10-21-2007, 01:29 AM   #2
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AAS use will do quite the opposite. Using synthetic testosterone or its derivative will shut down endrogenous testosterone production. Using AAS to bolster your natural test production is definetly not a good idea and will not work. As far as anti-e's, it depends. Aromitose Inhibitors prevent test from converting to estrogen, and will not raise your test levels. SERMS however would work. I have seen Rocco post before that people with low test can use clomid to raise test production. As far as the dosing and duration for an non PCT application, I couldnt tell you. HCG might be helpful? If you are doing it for preformance enhancing purposes then AAS is great and will help you to achieve your goals. If you are old enough and feel ready then great run a cycle and then come off and run pct stay off for 12 weeks and run another, etc. If you are trying to treat a valid medical issue then go to an endocrinologist and follow their recomendations. Just my opinion.
 
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Old 10-21-2007, 03:19 AM   #3
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Thanks for ur opinion man, yer rocco recommended for me to take clomid other than that i just wanted to know what people thought
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Old 10-22-2007, 01:30 PM   #4
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AAS will only make the problem worse.

Anti E's AI's will raise test but will mess up your hormone balence. THey raise test by keeping estrogen low. Thus the body thinks it needs to make more test. THe problme is they don't alow a natural balence of test and estro and two of the three AI's we use are not suicidal inghhibitors so when you stop taking them and they release form the receptors it's rebound city and no test production.

HCG is totaly useless to you. IT will further shut you down becasue it mimics LH in the body.
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Old 10-22-2007, 06:23 PM   #5
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just a thought what about...tribulus?

yes it might not work as well, but who knows? thoughts?
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:50 AM   #6
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Im taking ZMA, tribulus ive tried didnt find it to work. Ive seen my doctor and he recommended for me to do a few more blood tests to confirm whats actually happening.

He recommended testosterone injections which have a half life of 3 to 6 months in the body. I havent heard of these he tells me their new on the market. So i could take an injection every few months of so.
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:52 AM   #7
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I asked him about clomid and he says that clomid as well as well as any other Anti-E will lower test in the long run after taking it so the injections would be much more effective in his opinion.
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:56 AM   #8
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LOL.... Sorry but Clomid isnt so much an anti-e as an estrogen regulator. test inj with 3-6 mo half life seems a little sketchy to me, does this doctor your going to have white hair that sticks up in all directions? I'm sure im just being nieve though.
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Old 10-23-2007, 04:02 AM   #9
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Haha hes a good doctor. So you've never heard of T injections with such a long half life? Neither have i until today
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Old 10-23-2007, 04:04 AM   #10
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No, i havent but i have minimal experience, hopefully someone with more knowledge on injections will pop in. What kind of doctor is he?
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Old 10-23-2007, 04:11 AM   #11
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Hes just my GP, ive got a referal to an endo so he can do a few more tests and probably offer more specific advice on the matter
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Old 10-23-2007, 04:25 AM   #12
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Yeah definitly trust the endo over your GP, hopefully you get everything fixed up. Good Luck.
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Old 10-23-2007, 04:32 AM   #13
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Though my GP isnt like all the other idiot doctors out their he actually knows what hes talking about. Thanks for the support bro :)
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