[makaveli-313]

So the last time i was in here i asked ya'll about steroid basics & i was asked to read Anabolics 2007 .Now i wasnt able to find that book but i did do some research on the net and asked around...some not alot/indepth and hence am still quite nooby :).Heres what i found out & Please correct me if im wrong.

For someone who is doing this for the first time(me) he/she should start of with an oral "cycle kick starter" like say dianabol & then combine it with injectables that work over time like say Deca Durabolin ( i am going to be using these 2 as where i live these 2 are widely used and are 100% genuine)....the concept being " that you start seeing results within the first week of your cycle and continue up until the end with the injectables."

Now some questions :)

Question No.1 :
Is this what most people do ? ... start of with an oral and then stop that and move on

to injectables or Can one just keep taking an oral drug like dbol and see the same

results as injectables ?

Question No.2 :
Do oral steroids like dbol reduce your natural testostrone levels or is it just

injectables ?

Question No.3 :
From what i read dbol is mostly used either before cycles or between cycles to maintain

gains. Is dbol also used whilst taking an injectable ? If so is that safe ?

Question No.4 :
Is this the correct dosage for a first timer or should i reduce it :-
10mgs/day of Dianabol
600mgs/week of Deca - Durabolin

Question No.5 :
Most important question...
Now I will wait till im 21ish before i start any of this,I'm 20 atm & i thought it would be wise to get as much info as i can before i start a year from now.I was reading the other thread about the 15 year old :( ...Is 21 a safe age or should i wait longer.....health > body :).

Thanks in advance for any help guys :)

[lil_big_junior]

i suggest you read around the forum for a bit more research bro...leave deca well alone

[Zomb131]

Originally Posted by makaveli-313

So the last time i was in here i asked ya'll about steroid basics & i was asked to read Anabolics 2007 .Now i wasnt able to find that book but i did do some research on the net and asked around...some not alot/indepth and hence am still quite nooby :).Heres what i found out & Please correct me if im wrong.

For someone who is doing this for the first time(me) he/she should start of with an oral "cycle kick starter" like say dianabol & then combine it with injectables that work over time like say Deca Durabolin ( i am going to be using these 2 as where i live these 2 are widely used and are 100% genuine)....the concept being " that you start seeing results within the first week of your cycle and continue up until the end with the injectables."

Where the hell did you read that? Your first cycle should NOT be orals, stick with Test e @ 500mg/week.

Now some questions :)

Question No.1 :
Is this what most people do ? ... start of with an oral and then stop that and move on to injectables or Can one just keep taking an oral drug like dbol and see the same results as injectables ?

People who do that really don't know what their doing. You could do that but you'd put way too much stress on your liver. I'd rather have injection site pain then damaging my liver.

Question No.2 :
Do oral steroids like dbol reduce your natural testostrone levels or is it just injectables ?

Yes

Question No.3 :
From what i read dbol is mostly used either before cycles or between cycles to maintain gains. Is dbol also used whilst taking an injectable ? If so is that safe ?

An oral in general is used durring the first 3-4 weeks, to "kickstart" their cycles. Yes, you can take orals with injectables. If you take proper liver cleaning supps and run them for no longer then 4-6 weeks. Some orals are a lot more harsh then others, so do your homework.

Question No.4 :
Is this the correct dosage for a first timer or should i reduce it :-
10mgs/day of Dianabol
600mgs/week of Deca - Durabolin

DUmbest cycle ever! Test E 500mg/week. 12 weeks in length.

Question No.5 :
Most important question...
Now I will wait till im 21ish before i start any of this,I'm 20 atm & i thought it would be wise to get as much info as i can before i start a year from now.I was reading the other thread about the 15 year old :( ...Is 21 a safe age or should i wait longer.....health > body :).

Some people have said 25 is the best age, but 21 is the min. age.

Thanks in advance for any help guys :)

Read the bold....

[BEEFCAKE77]

1-that is what people did way back when oxandrolone, winstrol,primobolan and other orals were available. Now you only get dianabol and oxy and they are way too toxic bad start.

2-yes

3-yes mostly during.not safe at all lol very toxic

4-reduce deca and up diana to 25

5- There isn´t a safe age brother, but it is for sure wiser. First you must think what are your goals and if the only way to get there is with roids if it is be sure you ready for a wild ride cause one you go roid your body never goes back to what it was before it.

[makaveli-313]

hmmm
alrit thanks guys ..that answered all my questions :)
im gonna have to do some more research ^_^

[net70]

that brings me to question...
is a cycle of 20 mgs of D-Bol/day and 50mgs/week
a good cycle?
and please answer the question and not give me the "dont cycle at your age" speech...
my cycle finish's tomarow anyway
just want to know... thanks

[lil_big_junior]

^^^NO

[Zomb131]

Originally Posted by net70

that brings me to question...
is a cycle of 20 mgs of D-Bol/day and 50mgs/week
a good cycle?
and please answer the question and not give me the "dont cycle at your age" speech...
my cycle finish's tomarow anyway
just want to know... thanks

Oral only cycles are not good at all. You may see sudden gains, but as soon as your off they are gone. You need to balls up and inject.

[net70]

i did inject.. i injected the 50mgs deca once a week
and i dont care if i lose must or even all of the mass...
beacuse i have a long ass time to build mass... (thats naturally)

[lil_big_junior]

50mg EW on deca is pointless...at 15 it's stupid

[BEEFCAKE77]

lol

[QuinnBW]

shouldn't have done that cycle IMO