my cycle - need some help from the experts!

bkhoda · 08-01-2007, 11:41 AM

Hey all
first time poster so bear with me if i drag on or anything

my first cycle ever, 20 years old and 16%BF. and I'm on my first week of REAL turkish anapolon 50mg a day at the moment planning on running it for either 3, or 5 weeks. I've got some sus250 and deca here with me waiting to find itself into my ass and shoulders lol. I'm not sure if i should cycle it on with my anapolon though, and for how long i should cycle each one. If so, how much mg should i be doing a week for each one? and what days should i be injecting?

another thing,
i havent decided to start my pct until maybe 1 week before coming off all the injections (sus, deca). Should i start taking the nolva and hcg (pregnyl) if i see signs of gyno?? If i don't see signs, is 1 week before end of cycles good enough? Also, what's days and dosages should i be taking nolva? because i no pregnyl is 5 days apart but not sure how much mg....? I definately wanna keep as much mass after i get off the juice then get shredded for and during summer so a good pct is where i need 2 start.

very much appreciate all the help and effort u guys put into the response cheers

anthk · 08-01-2007, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bkhoda

I definately wanna keep as much mass after i get off the juice then get shredded for and during summer

Listen buddy sorry to be rude but reading that seems you have little knowledge in AAS. Typical i wanna get huge quick scheme. What is your status in training? Spend A LONG TIME researching about AAS.

for the info stay right away from Anapolon period. Anapolon is powerful it has the highest threat for serious adverse reactions out of any oral or injectable steroids compounds. excessive water retention, high blood pressure, very high DHT levels and very toxic to the liver due to the characteristics of being C-17 alphaallrylated steroid.

Anapolon steroidal compound gives quick strength and mass gains, it's utilization is NOT for novice users this is serious stuff.

When you are ready for AAS; 1-12 Weeks sustanon 250 @ 500mg p/w (inject monday & thursday). Keep nolva on hand for gyno reasons to even take .5mg Arimidex p/d to help stop water retention and gyno (or Aromasin)

Do not add HCG in PCT, add HCG during the cycle 250iu or 500iu ed for 5 or 6 days until you feel them bigger.

PCT- 21 days after last injection; Nolvadex @ day1 - 40mg, day 2 - 40mg, day 3 - 20mg, day 4 - 20mg, day 5 - 20mg etc. until you reach a total of 30days. You can add clomid if you like 150/100/50 but i personal choose nolvadex ( 20mgs alone per day raise your testosterone levels about 150%).

But seriously i am starting to understand why people can get shitty typing this. Don't you look into AAS seriously, epically at your age. Unless you havn't done your research your health might not be looking so bright in the future but ay goodluck.

**lil_big_junior** · 08-01-2007, 02:39 PM

^^^you said it all bro...the only thing i'm gonna pick on you is with HCG doses. 250iu split into 2 pins EW throughout the cycle is enough, no need for 500iu...rest of that seems fine to me. i'd personally stick to aromasin, no need for a'dex with this particular cycle IMO...

**chrispghmuscle** · 08-01-2007, 02:51 PM

DAMN, you expect me to remember all that!!! I'm just going to LIFT Heavy/ Eat everything in site and gain massive weight..

**Zomb131** · 08-01-2007, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bkhoda

Hey all
first time poster so bear with me if i drag on or anything

my first cycle ever, 20 years old and 16%BF. and I'm on my first week of REAL turkish anapolon 50mg a day at the moment planning on running it for either 3, or 5 weeks. I've got some sus250 and deca here with me waiting to find itself into my ass and shoulders lol. I'm not sure if i should cycle it on with my anapolon though, and for how long i should cycle each one. If so, how much mg should i be doing a week for each one? and what days should i be injecting?

Anapolon is VERY harsh on your system, reading it's profile, it looks like Halo. Should NOT be taken by beginners. Make sure your keeping your liver in in good health with supps. From what i hear bloat is very bad from it, and you should run A-dex everyday to keep water down.

Sust: 250mg 2x per week. Monday/Thursday. Totaling 500mg per week.

I would leave it at that, and leave out the deca. Deca has many bad sides. If you chose to use deca, make sure you just run 250-300mg per week. Also have Cabergoline and run that 500mcg's per week to prevent prolactin build up and gyno. Prolactin can KILL your libido and you penis will be useless.

another thing,
i havent decided to start my pct until maybe 1 week before coming off all the injections (sus, deca). Should i start taking the nolva and hcg (pregnyl) if i see signs of gyno?? If i don't see signs, is 1 week before end of cycles good enough? Also, what's days and dosages should i be taking nolva? because i no pregnyl is 5 days apart but not sure how much mg....? I definately wanna keep as much mass after i get off the juice then get shredded for and during summer so a good pct is where i need 2 start.

You have to wait till the life of the gear your on expires before you run pct. You must understand what the purpose of PCT is. It's to get your body's natural test back in production. Sust's half life is 10.5 days, so you have to said 21 days before starting PCT. So, after your last injection, 21 days later you start day 1 of pct. If you start PCT after the last injection, your not going to do any good.

HCG should be run DURRING the cycle starting @ week 3-4. 250IU 2x per week, just like your sust.

very much appreciate all the help and effort u guys put into the response cheers

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bkhoda · 08-01-2007, 07:32 PM

damn anthk good memory there! lol

prob is i've already started the anapolon cycle...only 4 days in though. Feeling great taking my liver tabs and on first day noticed energy increase.
Don't think what anyone says is gona stop me from finishing my tab's though lol sorry dude.
thanks for the injection amount and days though, i'll do the above but a week before the end of my anapolon 5 week cycle. I've been training for a year HARD no bs lifting. thanks again anthk

**Kaboom** · 08-01-2007, 08:10 PM

20 yrs old and 16% BF.I think he needs to train a while longer before even thinking about all this.16% BF hel you have enough mass with that.

bkhoda · 08-02-2007, 12:12 AM

thanks guys. decided to just finish up my anapolon tabs so the cycle is only gonna be going for 2 and a half weeks...in a few months i might consider another cycle when i read up more and shred some more bf. anyway, since its a very very short cycle 2 weeks n a half, im still going to take my pregnyl hcg, zma, trib, and if i start noticing gyno ill add in nolva in my pct. sound good? would those pct drugs help to retain the mass that i do put on?

anthk · 08-02-2007, 01:01 AM

You made the right choice getting off Anapolon. The quick gains you made from Anapolon is mostly water weight so you will loose most of what was gained (being only 2 weeks). Do take some nolvadex for about a week to be sure you testosterone is not affected (to be safe). Be safe, research, train big and eat big.