[young_guns]

hey guys,
i was wondering if some people could give me some advice on juicing. i went to the gym yesterday, and was talking to this guy in yr 12, and i found out that he was on some sort of roids, and he is extremly strong and has really low bf. now he would have been on them at the end of year 11 ( 17 years old). what is the lowest age u could take them without putting your body in to much danger?( i know at any age there r risks),because this guy has not noticed any change in his body after juicing( any bad changes), is 17 way to young? and also, how would u go about getting them, like r there any other options apart from buying them from the internet?
thx heaps guys

[lil_big_junior]

stay away from AAS till your atleast 21...anyone uses under that age will be putting them through serious health risks

[Mygeeto]

life is a gamble. play your game but take heed of the risks when the cards are down. ye have been warned.

never buy off the internet. most of the time they are fakes.
ask your friend or whoever this dude is where he got his gear from.

pointers
1) he's probably lying about juicing.
2) do you know what PCT is?
3) yes he would have experienced some bad side effects notably acne
4) even if you did find a dealer of steroids, he would probably rip you off or sell you fakes anyway because your not "bright" enough to know the difference.
5) there is no such thing as "lowest age you can take them without putting yourself in danger"... per se if you know or dont know how to use whatever it is you've got in your hands. guns can be lethal, but its how you use them and how careful you are with them, same goes for AAS.
6) this idiot your talking to who does take steroids probably is the type to think that Creatine also comes under that category too
7) and is also the type to think that protien powder is bad for the liver or whatever

[young_guns]

yeah, i dont want AAS or PCT is, im guess AAS is something to do with anabloics mabey lol?
and as for the guy, he does take creatine and protien now, but he dosent really like to talk about when he was juicing info great detail.
thx for the info guys

[lil_big_junior]

AAS - anabolic androgenic steroids

[Mygeeto]

PCT refers to the drugs you take after you finished a steroid cycle (Post Cycle Therapy) to bring your natural testosterone levels back into action or you'll lose most of your gains fairly quickly.

[Mygeeto]

PCT refers to the drugs you take after you finished a steroid cycle (Post Cycle Therapy) to bring your natural testosterone levels back into action or you'll lose most of your gains fairly quickly.

[young_guns]

aahhhhh i c..
thx for the info, im just going to stick with protien/creatine. safer but slower, just means i have to work a bit harder
thx heaps guys

[mindstar]

Originally Posted by Mygeeto

5) there is no such thing as "lowest age you can take them without putting yourself in danger"... per se if you know or dont know how to use whatever it is you've got in your hands. guns can be lethal, but its how you use them and how careful you are with them, same goes for AAS.

I disagree with this part. First off, there are no known cases of death cause by AAS.

Second, there are signifigantly increased risks for permanant damage to your HPTA axis as well as the sealing of growth plates for men under the age of 21. Above 24 is the safest age to minimize these risks, all other things being equal.

Steroids will always carry with them risks, but they can be mitigated by education and proper use and a sound mental state before beginning them.

[Zomb131]

Originally Posted by young_guns

aahhhhh i c..
thx for the info, im just going to stick with protien/creatine. safer but slower, just means i have to work a bit harder
thx heaps guys

Don't think about them till your at least 21. You have a lot of natural test in you, get your diet and training down. I bet if you start eating right you'll put on some great mass.

[Mygeeto]

Originally Posted by mindstar

I disagree with this part. First off, there are no known cases of death cause by AAS.

Second, there are signifigantly increased risks for permanant damage to your HPTA axis as well as the sealing of growth plates for men under the age of 21. Above 24 is the safest age to minimize these risks, all other things being equal.

Steroids will always carry with them risks, but they can be mitigated by education and proper use and a sound mental state before beginning them.

i agree with u completly man, but just for the record i have to point out just these two things so theres no misunderstanding...

growth plates aint a big deal.. it only means your not going to grow any taller but to some people that isent an issue at all. personal choice really.

as for steroids being deadly, well i was simply using implying that they can be dangerous (like guns), but not nessisarily fatal... education is key with this sort of thing is what i was trying to put across.

[mindstar]

fair enough...