How much to eat while ON?

LeanBulk · 05-22-2007, 01:27 PM

Hey guys, I am currently on my third day of pheraplex/mega zol. I weighed in this morning at 177.3, and my goal is to reach 190lbs which NO fat gain. I have some belly/chest fat as it is, and I really want to get rid of it. How much should I be eating in order to get the best results out of the stack, while putting on the least amount of fat, and possibly losing fat? Right now I am eating about 3000 calories a day and my diet looks something like this:

Meal One: 1/3 cup egg whites, 2 whole eggs, 2 pieces whole wheat toast w/ a little butter.

Meal Two (Pre/During/Post Workout) - 18 oz water, scoop of WPI (24 g protein), 4 scoops Xtend, 2 scoops Posideon

Meal Three - 8 oz chicken breast or 8 oz steak or Can of Tuna w/ 2 pieces whole wheat bread. 1 cup brocolli or fruit

Meal Four - 10 oz milk, 1 Scoop Protein

Meal Five - Meal Three - 8 oz chicken breast or 8 oz steak or Can of Tuna w/ 2 pieces whole wheat bread. 1 cup brocolli or fruit

Meal Six - Depends how hungry. Maybe another tuna sandwich, maybe just some nuts, and a protein shake.

Anyways, my diet is pretty clean, but I am not sure how many calories I should be taking in, and also what type of macro breakdown I should be using. I have heard that prohormones feed off of carbs and I should maybe up my carb intake while on cycle, but I am concerned with fat gain so I am not sure about this.

Thanks for the advice!

**lil_big_junior** · 05-22-2007, 01:47 PM

this shouldnt be in the steroid forum...but anabolic extreme products are very toxic to the liver. pheraplex is also alot more androgenic than SD (superdrol)

whilst on them u need to eat as much as what any bbder does on a bulk...these supplements aren't miracle drugs either, u still need to eat alot in order for them to work. when u bulk u will have to up bf, u cant avoid it

**Zomb131** · 05-22-2007, 02:25 PM

Your not eating enough. You should never replace a hole food meal with a shake.

**mindstar** · 05-22-2007, 03:04 PM

you only have 3 real meals in there...

move your steak to your last meal, and eat it even if you aren't hungry. Eating for mass is a job, not a hobby.

If you're worried about bloat and fat, cut the dairy and try carb cycling. Don't take in carbs after about 4-5pm or so, unless it is PWO.

How tall are you? At 177, you could grow a lot more just with a good diet without risking your health with really harsh orals. Unless you are 4'6" in which case you are HUGE!

LeanBulk · 05-22-2007, 03:55 PM

lol im 5'9". i should cut the cheese, fruits, and milk out of my diet to help lose fat?

**lil_big_junior** · 05-22-2007, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mindstar

you only have 3 real meals in there...

move your steak to your last meal, and eat it even if you aren't hungry. Eating for mass is a job, not a hobby.

If you're worried about bloat and fat, cut the dairy and try carb cycling. Don't take in carbs after about 4-5pm or so, unless it is PWO.

How tall are you? At 177, you could grow a lot more just with a good diet without risking your health with really harsh orals. Unless you are 4'6" in which case you are HUGE!

lol COSIGN

**Zomb131** · 05-22-2007, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by LeanBulk

Hey guys, I am currently on my third day of pheraplex/mega zol. I weighed in this morning at 177.3, and my goal is to reach 190lbs which NO fat gain.

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Originally Posted by LeanBulk

lol im 5'9". i should cut the cheese, fruits, and milk out of my diet to help lose fat?

Do you know how hard it is to gain...12.7lbs of just muscle? If you seriously want to make that weight gain then you need to be eating A LOT! IMO gaining 12 lbs with "NO fat gain" is impossible.

**lil_big_junior** · 05-22-2007, 05:13 PM

COSIGN

**mindstar** · 05-23-2007, 12:45 AM

I think you could clean bulk for a few months to make the weight w/o gear.

**Zomb131** · 05-23-2007, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by mindstar

I think you could clean bulk for a few months to make the weight w/o gear.

12lbs pure muscle no fat/water in just a few months?

**roccodart440** · 05-23-2007, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Zomb131

12lbs pure muscle no fat/water in just a few months?

That is very doiable for a 1st time user.

**mindstar** · 05-23-2007, 01:15 PM

not without the fat...but at only 177, clearly his diet and training need some work. If he were to really hit it full throtle with no compromises, he could probably put on 5-7 pounds at least while losing bodyfat, which will make him appear bigger than a soft 190. Maybe a few months was a bit of an understatement though. With gear and a proper diet, depending on cycle length he could put on 12 pounds no problems...especially because he is so small right now.