[JaKKd up]

I am considering using over the summer after my training partner said he received good results from taking just 300mg of Test E for 12 weeks. I am not sure what PCT he used and/or if Dbol was in his cycle.

I have been doing some research and found out that Test E would be a good first cycle. Should I use 500mg a week for 12 weeks or 10 weeks? What days of the week are best for injection? Is the Quad the best site for a first cycle, like I have read? Also what else should I use during the first 10-12 weeks and the 4 weeks after for Post Cycle Therapy? He told me that he gained a lot of water weight during the cycle and he lost his appearence of abs. I do not want to become bloated and will be doing cardio to combat this but he told me there was some drugs that keeps the water weight low. Does anyone know what it is called?

Also, another important thing is that I know that roids can possibly amplify baldness and my freind said he bought a specific shampoo to combat this side effect. Does anybody know if the shampoo is effective?

Any help with cycle would be appreciated!

[Zomb131]

Originally Posted by JaKKd up

I am considering using over the summer after my training partner said he received good results from taking just 300mg of Test E for 12 weeks. I am not sure what PCT he used and/or if Dbol was in his cycle.



I have been doing some research and found out that Test E would be a good first cycle. Should I use 500mg a week for 12 weeks or 10 weeks? What days of the week are best for injection? Is the Quad the best site for a first cycle, like I have read? Also what else should I use during the first 10-12 weeks and the 4 weeks after for Post Cycle Therapy? He told me that he gained a lot of water weight during the cycle and he lost his appearence of abs. I do not want to become bloated and will be doing cardio to combat this but he told me there was some drugs that keeps the water weight low. Does anyone know what it is called?

Also, another important thing is that I know that roids can possibly amplify baldness and my freind said he bought a specific shampoo to combat this side effect. Does anybody know if the shampoo is effective?

Any help with cycle would be appreciated!

300mg/week is a great starting cycle as I just finished my first with 300mg/week. Some people say it's not enough for a first cycle, but some say it's plenty. You have to be the judge on this.

If your set with 500mg/week, 10 weeks would be great for a first cycle. The days don't matter as long it's something like Monday/Thursday. Studies have shown that Test levels drop drastically after 4 days.

Quads are a good place to start injecting like I did. You could also try the Glutes. howtodoinjections.com a great place on where to exactly to inject.

PCT: This should be started two weeks after last injection. Since Test E's half life is 10.5 days, it will be out of your system in 21 days. Some people start their PCT 21 days exactly, but i'm starting mine 2 weeks after last injection.

Well, on 300mg of Test E shouldn't cause that much bloat..probly his diet was shitty. But if you do see a lot of water bloat take Armidex. Get it form a chemical research company, it's cheaper.

[magnumfreak]

300 would be fine for a first cycle. Considering that is about 3-4 times normal production. As long as your diet is where it should be you will see great results with that cycle. Good luck.

[Fanatical Specialist]

METHANABOL (dianabol)
25mg ED for first 20 days

DECA-DURABOLIN
200mg Mon & Thurs for 12 weeks

TESTOSTERONE CYPIONATE
250mg Mon & Thurs for 12 weeks

NOLVADEX
20mg ED while on cycle & for 28 days post cycle

HCG (Pregnyl)
2500iu on day 21 & 26 after last deca

CLOMID
Day 21 Post Cycle: Clomid @ 300mg
Days 22 - 34: Clomid @ 100mg ED
Days 35 - 48: Clomid @ 50mg ED

- Multi-vitamiin ED
- 1000mg Milk Thistle ED
- 2 Tbsp Flax Seed Oil ED

[lil_big_junior]

stick to the 300\500mg test e bro for first cycle

[JaKKd up]

Originally Posted by Fanatical Specialist

METHANABOL (dianabol)
25mg ED for first 20 days

DECA-DURABOLIN
200mg Mon & Thurs for 12 weeks

TESTOSTERONE CYPIONATE
250mg Mon & Thurs for 12 weeks

NOLVADEX
20mg ED while on cycle & for 28 days post cycle

HCG (Pregnyl)
2500iu on day 21 & 26 after last deca

CLOMID
Day 21 Post Cycle: Clomid @ 300mg
Days 22 - 34: Clomid @ 100mg ED
Days 35 - 48: Clomid @ 50mg ED

- Multi-vitamiin ED
- 1000mg Milk Thistle ED
- 2 Tbsp Flax Seed Oil ED

Thanks for the advices (lol, arnie)! But this seems a bit complex for a first cycle. Although I read DBol is good to kickstart gains as an injectable for the first 4 weeks. I think I will try out...

500mg Test E for 12 weeks (unless someone feels 10 weeks would suffice)

Dbol for first 4 weeks

PCT- I am still not sure what to take, although I think my friend did say he started taking clomid 2 weeks after Test E as part of his PCT. What would be a good PCT for this first kind of small cycle?

Yes my training partner said his diet wasn't great because he was trying to gain as much mass as possible, so he was eating lots of subs a week. But he did take in a lot of protein. My diet right now is shotty because I moved and have not been able to get everything back on track. Although I used to have very good eating habits and ate 7-8 meals a day.
So I was wondering since my friend said my appettite will increase I will be eating more. How much protein/carbs/fats should I be eating? I weigh roughly 207 lbs. and am looking for strentht and mass increase but I will also be doing cardio upwards of 4x a week so I won't become too bloated. Would this suffice...

300g protein a day (Mostly from meals, very few shakes)
450g carbs a day mostly complex (except after w/o)
40g mostly unsaturated and flax oil fats a day

Thanks so far and anymore help would be appreciated!

p.s. Anyone know of the shampoo I metioned earlier in the post? Effectiveness?

[Zomb131]

Originally Posted by JaKKd up

PCT- I am still not sure what to take, although I think my friend did say he started taking clomid 2 weeks after Test E as part of his PCT. What would be a good PCT for this first kind of small cycle?

Since this is your first cycle, and a small one you can run just Nolva or clomid alone. Or both. Here is an example PCT I will be running:

Week 12: 100mg Clomid 40mg Nolva
Week 13: 50mg Clomid 20mg Nolva
Week 14: 50mg Clomid 20mg Nolva

[Fanatical Specialist]

Originally Posted by lil_big_junior

stick to the 300\500mg test e bro for first cycle

The deca / test was my first cyle. Not really all that difficult whats you get the routine down and I put on about 25 lbs in the course of 12 weeks. The deca really helped me with joint pain.

[lil_big_junior]

Originally Posted by Fanatical Specialist

The deca / test was my first cyle. Not really all that difficult whats you get the routine down and I put on about 25 lbs in the course of 12 weeks. The deca really helped me with joint pain.

yea thats cool bro...my first cycle was on a 20week cycle on sus 250 only...

week 1 2000mg
weeks 2-4 1000mg
weeks 5-12 1000mg every other week
weeks 13-20 500mg every other week

i just wish i done test e first...its the most popular choice for first time users, just to see how ur body reacts to any sort of test...

[TunaFish]

I would stick with Test E at 500 for your first cycle. See how your body reacts before adding in other compounds such as Dbol and Deca. 500 for 10-12 weeks then proper PCT as people have shown you above.

[lil_big_junior]

^^^like i said, i agree