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Old 03-21-2007, 10:21 PM   #1
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I'm thinking about running IGF with my PCT. I'm going to run it 4 weeks on/2 off/4on. 40mcg's total per injection....20mcg's in each muscle group.

My question is after injection how much carbs/protein do i need to injest?
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Old 03-22-2007, 01:40 AM   #2
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u should run it for 50 days on 20-40 days off. i suggest u do a bit more research on this first bro. it's not exactly hgh nor insulin, this is some serious gear...i dont know alot of guys that use this, i dont know alot of guys who wud use this.

diet wise all depends on how big u are.
 
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Old 03-22-2007, 03:36 AM   #3
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50 days on? What the ****? 50 days on would severly degrade your receptors.

Basic protocal for IGF is 4on/2off/4on 3x a week, 40mcg's. 20mcg's bi-laterally

My question was what does my meal need to consist of 20 min after the injection?


Anyone with a logical answer?
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Old 03-22-2007, 09:34 AM   #4
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I'm thinking about running IGF with my PCT. I'm going to run it 4 weeks on/2 off/4on. 40mcg's total per injection....20mcg's in each muscle group.

My question is after injection how much carbs/protein do i need to injest?
SInce you are running IFF-1 stand alone 40mcg is alittle onthe light side but better than nothing. I know alot of people who use it, most of which run it with HGH. Take it post workout with some complex carbs. It doesn't make you go hypo like insulin does. I wouldn't worry about an exact amount of carbs more so getting the right carbs in you.

YOur protocl is fine. YOu want to use it everyday. You can site inject or not. THere sin't aot of proof even with IGF supporting site injecting actually working.
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Old 03-22-2007, 01:55 PM   #5
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thanks rocco. I'll probly just time my PWO drink with the IGF, 50g's protein, 75-100g's complex carbs.

I've read a few posts on other boards guys getting great pumps and size from the 2nd week of IGF.
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Old 03-22-2007, 03:02 PM   #6
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Sorry for being a muppet earlier, but i'm still sticking to this:

The most effective length for a cycle of IGF is 50 days on and 20-40 days off.

Take dosages ranging from 50mcg up to 100mcg per day in divided doses. One injection in the morning and again at bed time. Never exceed 120mcg in one day.

Dissolve each vial by 1ml of water for injection. Inject twice daily.

By taking insulin in the morning you prolong the IGF1's half life to 12 hours and then take a 6 hour injection, you should be fine.

a lot of people run this with hgh

30-50g protein, 150 carbs
 
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Old 03-22-2007, 03:39 PM   #7
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Sorry for being a muppet earlier, but i'm still sticking to this:

The most effective length for a cycle of IGF is 50 days on and 20-40 days off.

Take dosages ranging from 50mcg up to 100mcg per day in divided doses. One injection in the morning and again at bed time. Never exceed 120mcg in one day.

Dissolve each vial by 1ml of water for injection. Inject twice daily.

By taking insulin in the morning you prolong the IGF1's half life to 12 hours and then take a 6 hour injection, you should be fine.

a lot of people run this with hgh

30-50g protein, 150 carbs
THis is prety good advice zombie
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Old 03-22-2007, 06:54 PM   #8
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Sorry for being a muppet earlier, but i'm still sticking to this:

The most effective length for a cycle of IGF is 50 days on and 20-40 days off.

Take dosages ranging from 50mcg up to 100mcg per day in divided doses. One injection in the morning and again at bed time. Never exceed 120mcg in one day.

Dissolve each vial by 1ml of water for injection. Inject twice daily.

By taking insulin in the morning you prolong the IGF1's half life to 12 hours and then take a 6 hour injection, you should be fine.

a lot of people run this with hgh

30-50g protein, 150 carbs
Thanks for the info. Dose seems kind of high. I'm getting a lot of comflicting info on this. I'll stick with the less is more method. Thanks guys for your input.
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I did 40 mcg ED for 4 weeks , this stuff scared the life out of me and ill never use it again , id take it wait 10 mins then take in a simple carb shake (around 60g of carbs with some protien) , then 20 min after that id go dizzy for at least 10-15 minutes. you might wonder hy i carried on for the full 4 weeks .. the effects other than feeling like i was about to die were outstanding, i felt like i grew with every injection.
Even given that ill never take it again, im hoping GH doesnt cause a similar effect.
 
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I did 40 mcg ED for 4 weeks , this stuff scared the life out of me and ill never use it again , id take it wait 10 mins then take in a simple carb shake (around 60g of carbs with some protien) , then 20 min after that id go dizzy for at least 10-15 minutes. you might wonder hy i carried on for the full 4 weeks .. the effects other than feeling like i was about to die were outstanding, i felt like i grew with every injection.
Even given that ill never take it again, im hoping GH doesnt cause a similar effect.
it doesn't
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Old 03-26-2007, 06:13 PM   #11
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nah u wont have that prob with gh bro, i agree with rocco
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Thats excellent news , as my order arrives tommorow \0/
 
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