Dianabol Help needed.

The Master · 02-18-2007, 11:06 AM

Hello!

Ive got some questions about Dianabol:

1)I think about taking it as a first cycle(I'm over 21)I'm tall(6.1) But I dont have alot of body mass I've been training for a couple of years and I'm ready for a first cycle. So is it any good for a first cycle?

2)Can I take it without combining it with anything?

3) Does the gains last?(In the same level as deca?)

4)any good advice about using it...I'm gonna take it oraly so should I take anything for liver support?

5)How much should I take and basically any good Info to know.

Thanks alot~!! Please answer!

Addicted2Liftin · 02-18-2007, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by The Master

Hello!

Ive got some questions about Dianabol:

1)I think about taking it as a first cycle(I'm over 21)I'm tall(6.1) But I dont have alot of body mass I've been training for a couple of years and I'm ready for a first cycle. So is it any good for a first cycle?

2)Can I take it without combining it with anything?

3) Does the gains last?(In the same level as deca?)

4)any good advice about using it...I'm gonna take it oraly so should I take anything for liver support?

5)How much should I take and basically any good Info to know.

Thanks alot~!! Please answer!

1. NO (dbol alone is not a 'cycle')
2. NO (need to add test)
3. NO, not if you take it alone. You'll get alot of bloat and you'll shrink real quick. Its got a very short half life of about 3hrs.

If your not at least 200lbs at your height forget about it. Train hard, gain some weight....and PLEASE do research,

-A2L

jram · 02-18-2007, 01:42 PM

Hey The Master;

A2L is right re: items1-3 and the weight issue. Minimum half-life of D-Bol is 3 hrs. but, can go to 6 hrs. depending on the individual. But if you do decide to take it, research the stacking possibilities with D-Bol as well as supporting supplements before, during and after the cycle (PCT).

Depending on what the dosages are, and the fact that D-Bol is fast acting you can try two methods. If your working out first thing in the morning it may work to your advantage to take the D-Bol in 1 or 2 dosages (before and after your w/o) if you can handle whatever the dosage would be. If not, you can spread out the dosage throughout the day in 3-4 dosages because of it’s half-life and this may provide even a better effect. But again, it depends on the individual

Just make sure you understand the effects of these enhancement chemicals and be prepared for what can be some major side effects if you don’t do your research.

Good luck on whatever you decide.

The Master · 02-18-2007, 02:50 PM

Jram: Thanks!
I have russian Dbal...Question is will the gains last?
and with what I should combine it that is not anabolic(Multi vitamin,protein etc)?

What are some good advices that you can give me?>

lwb357 · 02-18-2007, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Master

Jram: Thanks!
I have russian Dbal...Question is will the gains last?
and with what I should combine it that is not anabolic(Multi vitamin,protein etc)?

What are some good advices that you can give me?>

Not trying to be smart, but you just missed the advice.
A2L answered no to all of your questions, including the one you re-asked and JRAM said in the very first line that A2L is right.

Dbol is not a cycle it is a kick start for a cycle just like a protein shake is not a meal it is a supplement that you take in addition to real food.

The best advice anyone can give you is to research a lot more before you use the dbol.
If it doesn't come in a needle, it probably isn't a real cycle.

The Master · 02-18-2007, 03:26 PM

I understand that...thing is people around here do use it as a full cycle.
Why cant it be a cycle?

Addicted2Liftin · 02-18-2007, 06:46 PM

People that know nothing about anabolics use Dbol as a full cycle....people that are ill informed or do not do proper research. I dont mean to be a dick, but im bein real. Bottom line is, if you're not ready for needles, you're not ready for anabolics. You need to throw some test in there.....or deca. When you lose 90% of your gains from it you'll see dbol adds mostly water weight not lean muscle. Its just the nature of the compound.....

-A2L

lwb357 · 02-18-2007, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Master

I understand that...thing is people around here do use it as a full cycle.
Why cant it be a cycle?

What is the anabolic that your body produces naturally that maintains your weight and muscle mass even if you don't work out?

testosterone

What would be the best anabolic to add to add additional weight and muscle mass that you want to keep?

testosterone

What anabolic are all other steroids an analog of and would not exist if it weren't for this particular anabolic?

If you guessed testosterone, you won the golden ring.

Dianabol is an oral steroid and therefore somewhat toxic (although way overstated) to your liver. Injectable steroids enter your bloodstream through the muscle. Eventually they will go through the liver, but because they don't have to be methylayed or alkylated to avoid first liver bypass to enter the bloodstream, they aren't anywhere near as liver toxic. Dianabol converts through aromitase enzyme to DHT and estrogen. Those effects bring on the water weight associated with dbol. They also assist (short term) with a size increase and strength. Unfortuneately when you cease taking the oral, you lose much of that size and strength. So, you add the already naturally occuring hormone in your body(testosterone) and it helps to solidify those temporary gains. Injectable steroids take about 4 to 5 weeks to build up enough in your bloodstream to start noticing the effects. Dbol acts almost immediately, so we use the dbol to get the immediate effects and we add an injectible to maintain and solidify those effects.

The Master · 02-18-2007, 07:05 PM

Ok...I dont care using needles thing is that I got my hands on this d bal.

Is deca any good compared to it? can I take it alone? Full cycle just deca?

lwb357 · 02-18-2007, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Master

Ok...I dont care using needles thing is that I got my hands on this d bal.

Is deca any good compared to it? can I take it alone? Full cycle just deca?

This is just my opinion. But I look at deca as an ancillary to testosterone. Ever heard of the ECA stack? It's ephedrine, caffiene and asprin. Anyway, ephedrine by itself is x amount effective at buring fat, but if you add caffiene to it, it is 5 times more effective. I feel the same way about deca. Deca by itself is x amount effective for building muscle, but if you add test to it the efficiency seems to rise dramatically.

Additionally, deca is known to have very negative effects on your love life when used without test. It doesn't happen to everyone, but it happens to enough people to be a common concern.

oldman · 02-18-2007, 07:43 PM

Man i recently took dbol alone but in low dose and nothing happened! My only gains in strength and some mass was because i was eating properly,new programm,adequate rest between each muscle group.
Just like the guys said dbol plus testosterone its better.

**Freak** · 02-19-2007, 08:44 AM

A2L is exactly right! You still have at least one year just of researching to do and mature to using a needle. It's a damn needle, you've never received a shot before? Focus on achieving what you want naturally. I think you are looking for an easy way out. There are not shortcuts in this game.

Nobody else give him advice on what to do as far as specific cycles and what else to stack because he obviously has no clue and does not care about his health.

Taking orals you think nothing will ever happen because you are so used to taking vitamins, aspirin, supplements, etc... and nothing bad happens. These are drug not vitamins.