[anthk]

what is a good age to start using gear do you think??
using it at a younger age.. say 19 but controlled not abusing the system.

[Freak]

no at the very least 21 Wait until natural peak and done growing, which probably is older than 21.

[Mygeeto]

if you were at your natural peak, you would be a natural pro, yes?

[Jayhawkk]

Most advice at least 21 and older before introducing outside hormones. Reason being that you don't want to throw off your body's natural production while it's still 'growing' so to speak. You may look great at 19-23 but you still have a long way to go from there. If you use this time to stay natural and educate yourself on your body, diet and exercise you will have the info needed for the long haul as well as be 3 steps ahead of the game if you do decide to go to the dark side.

[anthk]

fair enough.. honestly im 19 and ive used sus250 but only 250mg a week and 5th week was 325 and stopped and i noticed a change in size and strength but health wise i noticed i felt a slight rise in anger but i could control it easily and i felt pain in my organs rarely.... ii did this to test if my body could handle it.... also im going to do this again with a low dosage of deca but i would like to also say that i have honestly researched this alot, associated with people that have done it at my age and health care professionals. i have taken all advice into concideratrion and i will have a healthly diet with the correct vitimans etc...

is was curious to know other peoples input on my decision.. thankyou very much

[Jayhawkk]

You've researched the the steroid profiles but have you researched what to look for and what to be prepared for when the cycle goes wrong or if something bad happens? I'm not trying to shoot you down but a lot of us think we're ready because we make ourselves believe we're ready to sort of trick us into thinking we're right.

Also, there are plenty of posted approved cycles on this and other boards that will break down cycle length, dose, stacks and recovery(PCT) Do you have all of your PCT on hand? Just honestly trying to help out here.


Putting off a cycle for a few weeks or hell, even a few years will not kill you or will it harm you. Starting a cycle without having all your ducks in a row can have very bad effects both now and long term.

[anthk]

to tell you the truth you are right... i am not prepared for what could happen.. i don't know what could happen, noone does. but what is there to do when it does?

i am still looking to complete my supplements untill then i havn't started and i proberly won't for another month or more. but i do appreciate your advice, thankyou

[Jayhawkk]

Look under Post Cycle Therapy(pct)
Look under the AS of choice and look under some keywords like Steroid Cycles, Steroid Stacks, etc etc

Find your goals as well. You'll need to determine what kinds of gains in muscle and/or strength you're looking for. When you get that far you want to decide proper protocal for the PCT. You want to look at diet and calorie intake for your cycle and the same for PCT. You're going to need to research signs and symptoms of Gyno, lethargy, Oil embolisms(if you're injecting), how to asperate properly, site injections if you plan on doing that. Signs and symtpoms of scar tissue and side of the drugs of choice. Back pumps vs. kidney pains. You're going to want to make sure you're able to keep track of blood pressure and heart rate.

Those are a small chunk of things to look into.