Ok i need to know this-do all the pros take steroids, all the real top guys i mean?

guys like kevin levrone, jay cutler, arnold, flex wheeler, shawn ray, dorian and others- does anybody have any real true facts of the guys taking steroids?

[SVTMuscle]

Is this a serious question?

[mindstar]

yes, as well as insulin, growth hormone, igf-1, clen, cytomel, arimidex, nolvadex, clomid...etc.

[slider88]

seriously is this a proper question

[gymrat29]

You're really dreaming if you think any pro is natural! That's really funny if you do.

[rkl0165]

Originally Posted by joeystel23

Ok i need to know this-do all the pros take steroids, all the real top guys i mean?

guys like kevin levrone, jay cutler, arnold, flex wheeler, shawn ray, dorian and others- does anybody have any real true facts of the guys taking steroids?

of course not..they are all natural and look that way because they work hard,eat right and get a good nights sleep..that's the key + doing squats,dead lifts,pullups,dips,over head press,bench press and lot's of abs..+ bis and tris..do it all and will look just like Arnold..

[thekid]

Originally Posted by rkl0165

of course not..they are all natural and look that way because they work hard,eat right and get a good nights sleep..that's the key + doing squats,dead lifts,pullups,dips,over head press,bench press and lot's of abs..+ bis and tris..do it all and will look just like Arnold..

HAHAHAHAHAHA!
if you believe this, then you will believe im the president of the United States.
what a fucking joke.

[Knuckles]

You know whats interesting??? this is the ONLY board where there are an abundant amount of people who really have no idea what this sport involves on any level. I enjoy this board a lot, but the amount of members that are not knowledgeable have become the huge majority, and thats sad. questions like this are ridiculous to ask. Not to mention this board has tons of people who frown on the use of drugs... this is a bodybuilding forum, and yes everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but that doesnt mean they must state it like it is something to be proud of. simply dont do them! Sorry for venting, but the "all natural" comments/ideas do get old to hear when they are coming from people who know little to nothing about what they are talking about.

PS - I have tons of respect for anyone who really has chosen to never touch drugs after researching them, and has come to their own conclusion. This is also based on the fact that they do not change their mind. I have seen so many people personally talk shit on steroids, slin, etc turn into abusive users. Funny how that works too.

[tjbentham]

Originally Posted by thekid

HAHAHAHAHAHA!
if you believe this, then you will believe im the president of the United States.
what a fucking joke.

um he was being sarcastic.............

[mindstar]

Originally Posted by Knuckles

You know whats interesting??? this is the ONLY board where there are an abundant amount of people who really have no idea what this sport involves on any level. I enjoy this board a lot, but the amount of members that are not knowledgeable have become the huge majority, and thats sad. questions like this are ridiculous to ask. Not to mention this board has tons of people who frown on the use of drugs... this is a bodybuilding forum, and yes everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but that doesnt mean they must state it like it is something to be proud of. simply dont do them! Sorry for venting, but the "all natural" comments/ideas do get old to hear when they are coming from people who know little to nothing about what they are talking about.

PS - I have tons of respect for anyone who really has chosen to never touch drugs after researching them, and has come to their own conclusion. This is also based on the fact that they do not change their mind. I have seen so many people personally talk shit on steroids, slin, etc turn into abusive users. Funny how that works too.

hear hear!

[SVTMuscle]

Its unfortunate that the pros in our sport have an extreme dark side, and if it ended with just steorids, we'd be lucky. but we're not. it is known that some even use, coke, meth, and other rec drugs to get shredded, along with gay for pay, and alot of other un ethical actions

[mindstar]

ethics are a point of view.

[rkl0165]

Originally Posted by SVTMuscle

Its unfortunate that the pros in our sport have an extreme dark side, and if it ended with just steorids, we'd be lucky. but we're not. it is known that some even use, coke, meth, and other rec drugs to get shredded, along with gay for pay, and alot of other un ethical actions

true but I wouyld think most "normal" guys would not want to follow that path...to be a body builder in the real sense is to build your body up and not destroy it or engage in immoral activities such as illegal drugs and "gay for pay".most guys just want to look great for the girls and that is very achievable doing weight lifting correctly..

[SVTMuscle]

Originally Posted by rkl0165

true but I wouyld think most "normal" guys would not want to follow that path...to be a body builder in the real sense is to build your body up and not destroy it or engage in immoral activities such as illegal drugs and "gay for pay".most guys just want to look great for the girls and that is very achievable doing weight lifting correctly..

Of course, to be a the average bodybuilder, thats what it invovles, it invovles a somewhat 'normal' life, job, and the bodybuilding lifestyle. But when your a growing amateur and bodybuilding, is your life, its like guys who play football in college, and dont get into the pro's, they have nothing else going for them because they suck at school they just go to college to play ball... I'm not talking about the top 10 here, Im talking mid-high end amateurs, and low end pro's that dont have great contracts