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Old 11-12-2006, 09:05 AM   #1
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when taking test eth It has a high risk of side-effects because it readily converts to a more androgenic form (DHT) in androgen responsive tissues and forms estrogen quite easily. do you need to take anything to counter this effect.
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Old 11-12-2006, 09:37 AM   #2
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yes, you either take an estrogen blocker or an estrogen inhibitor. A blocker will attach to receptors so the free estrogen has nowhere to attach itself, this still leaves ur estrogen levels high, an inhibitor helps prevent estrogen completely and will drop the overall levels down to a point that a blocker is not necessary. old school thought was take both to ensure gyno prevention, but this is incorrect. some blockers/inhibitors are not able to be run concurrently and one will break down the plasma of the other in the blood. since these drugs are typically somewhat expensive, its nice to not throw away hundreds of dollars. I prefer inhibitors, but they do hinder gains a tad. I just prefer to keep the water retention down while on, and would swap that for a few more sloppy pounds anytime.
 
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Old 11-13-2006, 09:49 AM   #3
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Horay for knuckles!!!!

dead on with that post bro.
 
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Old 11-13-2006, 04:51 PM   #4
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you need the water and to some extent the dht for the increase in both strengh and tissue size

but if oyu do wish to keep the bloat down
nolva
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arimidex
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Nolvadex will do nothing for bloat. Use an aromatase inhibitor like arimidex or aromasin for bloat. Nolvadex will only give you gyno prevention.
 
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Old 11-15-2006, 08:20 AM   #6
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Nolvadex will do nothing for bloat. Use an aromatase inhibitor like arimidex or aromasin for bloat. Nolvadex will only give you gyno prevention.
Exactly... blockers do NOTHING for bloat, and nolva is simply a blocker.
 
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Old 11-15-2006, 09:42 AM   #7
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Exactly... blockers do NOTHING for bloat, and nolva is simply a blocker.

It acts as an estrogen in some tissues and acts as a estro blocker in others.
 
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