Winter Bulking Cycle

SDEWITT · 10-10-2006, 03:42 AM

Winter Bulking Cycle:

Wondering your guys' thoughts on this cycle. Its set for 12 weeks before starting PCT.

Test E. 500/wk
Eq. 600/wk

Any thoughts - posative negative both welcome.

Thanks.

Mulletsoldier · 10-10-2006, 11:36 AM

Looks pretty standard and good to go to me. Is this your first? What do you have lined up for PCT?

**roccodart440** · 10-10-2006, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SDEWITT

Winter Bulking Cycle:

Wondering your guys' thoughts on this cycle. Its set for 12 weeks before starting PCT.

Test E. 500/wk
Eq. 600/wk

Any thoughts - posative negative both welcome.

Thanks.

My experience has been that EQ no matter what the dose sucks for me.

WHat was your 1st cycle?

Mulletsoldier · 10-10-2006, 01:25 PM

The only thing I would say is that 12 weeks is slightly short for EQ, consensus is to include Equipose it longer runs.

SDEWITT · 10-10-2006, 08:22 PM

Last one was straight test all the way through.
PCT - Nolva, Arimi, and Clomid.
I've been reading up on Eq. and am definetly considering running it for longer.
Maybe bumping it up to 14-15 weeks.
I was considering Deca instead of Eq. seeing as how i have a bottle, but am trying to stay away from over bloating as much as i can while bulking.
Anyone put Deca over Eq for this cycle?

Thanks.

Mulletsoldier · 10-10-2006, 11:17 PM

Depends what your goals are. Deca/Test is a straight mass cycle, but obviously a more bloated look with the possibility of libido loss. EQ is a much milder compound which will give you a much more aesthetically pleasing cycle, especially towards the end. If you decide to include EQ run the Test 16 weeks, stopping the EQ at 14 and starting PCT two weeks after cessation of Test. That should give you enough time for both esters to clear as EQ has a super-long halflife

**roccodart440** · 10-11-2006, 09:24 AM

I would rather see you run EQ over deca. EQ will add bloat over straight test.

Now on to "bulking" you can bulk on any compound and you can realiticly cut on any compound exept when cutting water retention will be an enemy seteticly speaking.

My 2nd cycle was test/anavar. I put on 23 pounds and kept them ALL!

If you're 1st cycle was straight test then i'd say add one new compound to your cycle or creativly add two.

Heres what I propose for you
test sust 750mg MWF EW 1-10
Test prop 150mg EOD 11-13
dbol 25mg off days and 50 on 1-3, 10-12

Try aromasin for PCT instead of arimidex, but arimidex is hard to beat to control estro while on.

Mulletsoldier · 10-11-2006, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by roccodart440

I would rather see you run EQ over deca. EQ will add bloat over straight test.

Now on to "bulking" you can bulk on any compound and you can realiticly cut on any compound exept when cutting water retention will be an enemy seteticly speaking.

My 2nd cycle was test/anavar. I put on 23 pounds and kept them ALL!

If you're 1st cycle was straight test then i'd say add one new compound to your cycle or creativly add two.

Heres what I propose for you
test sust 750mg MWF EW 1-10
Test prop 150mg EOD 11-13
dbol 25mg off days and 50 on 1-3, 10-12

Try aromasin for PCT instead of arimidex, but arimidex is hard to beat to control estro while on.

The purpose of PCT being to restore functionality to all parts of your HPTA is granted, but there are other factors to consider. Completely decimating your oestrogen during PCT is not neccessary and IMO AI's should not be included in them. Estrogen among other things increase glucose utilization, GH output, and most importantly upgrades Androgen receptors, so killing it during the time you need it the most IS NOT A GOOD IDEA. It should be curtailed, not killed.

Onto the EQ, are we talking about the same compound here? EQ's oestrogenic activity as it pertains to bloat/gyno are present, but very minimal, and is known for it's increasing of appetite and aesthetic qualities when coupled with Test. Which, is why I asked what the OP's goals are as EQ would be suited for more of a 'lean bulk' with minimal fat gain, and Test/Deca is the classic all out mass cycle. Test E/EQ or Test/Deca are fine choices, but as I said it depends entirely on your goals.

SDEWITT · 10-12-2006, 03:11 AM

What are the major differences in the strength gains by using EQ as opposed to Deca?

**roccodart440** · 10-12-2006, 09:22 AM

EQ aromatizes so very simply if you use it in addition to test you will get more bloat than you would on test alone. It does aromatize les than test apporx 50%.

Strength gains from EQ vs Deca? Well I refuse to take deca and EQ does nothing for me. The best strength drugs i've used have been test, anavar and dbol. I'd also like to add that if you lok at the supplementation of most prominant powerlifters you won't find deca. Our arsenal contains things like test, tren, dbol, anadrol, anavar, EQ.

SOme htings i've used and would stay far away from are winny and anadrol. NOt for thre same reasons but i'd avoid these.