1 week to go ! (Test E)

Who am I · 08-28-2006, 05:11 PM

Hallo I just what to be 100 % sure that this cycle is good to go!

1-2 750mg Test E (500mg Monday - 250mg Thursday)
3-12 500mg Test E (250mg monday - 250mg thursday)
1-14 50mg Proviron ED
15-16 40 mg Nolvadex ED
17-18 20mg Nolvadex ED
With my last shot Test I will inject 1500 iu HCG E5D x 3

What do you guys think. ?? Is it bulletproff ?

idunk42 · 08-28-2006, 05:14 PM

I dont see the point of frontloading the test at the beginning. Just stick with 500mg or 750mg throughout the cycle.

Also, im not a fan of running the HCG at the end of the cycle or during PCT. I usually run it 250IU, 2x a week starting at about week 5 or so and run it until my last shot of test.

Who am I · 08-29-2006, 02:43 AM

Why dont you see the point in frontloading ? Tjek Roidcalc.com
I will have the desired amount in faster so my blood level will be much more stabel ?! Dont whant to take more injections. Than 2 times a week and 3 times with hcg. How about the proviron anybody done it 4 the hole cycle ? Is there anyside effect and what the best effect ?

Thank you.

Who am I · 09-05-2006, 01:12 PM

fog_hat1981 · 09-05-2006, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Who am I

Why dont you see the point in frontloading ? Tjek Roidcalc.com
I will have the desired amount in faster so my blood level will be much more stabel ?! Dont whant to take more injections. Than 2 times a week and 3 times with hcg. How about the proviron anybody done it 4 the hole cycle ? Is there anyside effect and what the best effect ?

Thank you.

The ester won't release itself any faster when frontloading Enanthate - you could run 3 grams for two weeks and it still wouldn't hit you until the end of week 2 or 3...

If you want to front load then go with a shorter acting ester like Propionate etc....

As for the HCG - run 250iu's 2-3 times a week throughout weeks 3-14 (with 10mg Nolva daily until week 14) then bump your Nolva to 40mg weeks 15-16 and Nolva 20mgs weeks 17-18......

Who am I · 09-07-2006, 07:21 AM

Why do people then frontload with the same ester all the time ? What is good about that. ? Many pro. does it as well. Wouldent I get more of the same drug in the body at the start ?

**roccodart440** · 09-07-2006, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Who am I

Why do people then frontload with the same ester all the time ? What is good about that. ? Many pro. does it as well. Wouldent I get more of the same drug in the body at the start ?

Many people have no clue about AAS, even some up and comming pro's. IT's not that frontloading in theory is wrong or doesn't work it's just that there are much better ways to jumpstart a cycle. FOr me front loading seems do do jack shit. I'd much prefer to use prop or an oral.

acoz · 09-07-2006, 04:42 PM

I am guessing this is your first and wonder why add the proviron or 750mg of test a week. If I am correct and it is your first seems a little overboard. IMO your mind is prob already set but you could get away with much less and in the process find out how your body reacts to AAS. gOOD LUCK GETTIN BIG EITHER WAY BROTHER.

**roccodart440** · 09-08-2006, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by acoz

I am guessing this is your first and wonder why add the proviron or 750mg of test a week. If I am correct and it is your first seems a little overboard. IMO your mind is prob already set but you could get away with much less and in the process find out how your body reacts to AAS. gOOD LUCK GETTIN BIG EITHER WAY BROTHER.

I agree with this. 500mg is fine for a 1st cycle. Proviron should be avoided for at least the 1st 5 weeks of a 1st cycle. Just run test and see what happens. MY 1st cycle was 500mg test and in week 7 I upped it to 750. Keep in mind I am 265 pounds and bench over 600. Most people don't even need 500mg but it seems to have become the established and accepted starting point for cycling. 500mg EW is WAY above normal blood levels for test.

Who am I · 09-08-2006, 11:54 AM

What happen when I frontload vs. NOT frontloading ?! I know but many newbies in the game take the classic 400mg deca / 500mg test ! This is 4 first cycle when only have trained 2-3 months. So I think its safe. Why not take proviron all through the cycle ? There aint any side effects besides erection all the time

It draines you from water (bloat) Has a Anti-e effect. Please need at many comment as I can get startin on Monday.

**roccodart440** · 09-08-2006, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Who am I

What happen when I frontload vs. NOT frontloading ?
IME nothing at all, and if I was doing my 1st cycle I wouod want the test to come on slower to assess the sides.

I know but many newbies in the game take the classic 400mg deca / 500mg test
THis is because most newbies are idiots. TEst decca is likely the worst 1st cycle ever.

This is 4 first cycle when only have trained 2-3 months.
It is a fairly safe 1st cycle with exception to the proviron. ALso i'd start with 500 and go to 750 test. Not the other way around. I'd also switch to short esters at the end for the last 3-4 weeks after the last shot of sust. Add proviron at week 6 if you'd like.

So I think its safe. Why not take proviron all through the cycle ? There aint any side effects besides erection all the time

NOt true. This is exactly why you should not ake proviron the whole way. You have no idea of the possible sides and it will effect your sensation of the test sides.

It draines you from water (bloat) Has a Anti-e effect.
very weak at both of these.

Hopefully that helps

Who am I · 09-08-2006, 03:27 PM

Yes do you have any sources on tha statments. ?

Or is it just personal oppinion.

Agree with you on these
I know but many newbies in the game take the classic 400mg deca / 500mg test
THis is because most newbies are idiots. TEst decca is likely the worst 1st cycle ever.

NOT

It draines you from water (bloat) Has a Anti-e effect.
very weak at both of these.
Please tell my why you cant take proviron alltough the cycle. Its only recomended it you a on a minimum 10-12 weeks cycle ! It has a week anti-e effect, but that enough 4 many people.

It draines you from water (bloat) Has a Anti-e effect.
very weak at both of these.

NOT
This is 4 first cycle when only have trained 2-3 months.
It is a fairly safe 1st cycle with exception to the proviron. ALso i'd start with 500 and go to 750 test. Not the other way around. I'd also switch to short esters at the end for the last 3-4 weeks after the last shot of sust. Add proviron at week 6 if you'd like.

It stupid to bump up the test when you only have 3-4 weeks left. Then it wount get stabel. So it only make sense to do it in the start or keep on the same dose alltough.

acoz · 09-08-2006, 07:58 PM

I would say if to frontload is your concern then your gear is wrong. That was already answered your Test E's isnt going to kick for a few weeks if this is your mission you need to add another AAS. Im not going to tell you what to put in your body. I am going to tell you your taking bad advise from someone. If your training is dialed in and you have planned a 8-10 wk traing regimen. If you have your diet mapped out daily, weekly, monthly then go for it. Even if you frontload dont expect its like Popeye and his spinach or underdog and his power pill. Strength and a great body is an envestment in time not a sprint. 250mg -500mg test will do wonders and your sides unless your sensitive will be minimum. IMO Peace brother.....