[doogie]

has anyone done just a tren cycle and if so how was the results.

[Mulletsoldier]

I have never done a Tren standalone, and am in fact on only my first cycle, but I do not have to experience it to know it would be a horrible idea. The side effects of Tren are enough to put some people off even when coupling with Test to help with some of the libido issues and sleeplessness...

[doogie]

I was talking about tren alone. Insomnia does not bother me. Before on a cycle it seemed to make me tired a lot. I would feel great but always tired. I was looking for some gains and also possible a little drop in body fat.

[Mulletsoldier]

I have never done a Tren standalone, and am in fact on only my first cycle, but I do not have to experience it to know it would be a horrible idea. The side effects of Tren are enough to put some people off even when coupling with Test to help with some of the libido issues and sleeplessness...

Like I said bro, not a good idea. I talked about the Test to illustrate that Tren is not run alone that often.

[idunk42]

As mullet said, using tren alone is not a good idea. It shuts you down, HARD. There's no reason not to add test to the mix.

[doogie]

thank you i appreciate the input maybe i should just stick to the usual since i know what it does and what to look for.

[idunk42]

If you stack add tren to a test cycle, you wont be disappointed. Its an amazing comound.

[Iron Warrior]

Might want to look into proviron if you choose Tren for its libido enhancing effects.

[LakeMountD]

Originally Posted by Iron Warrior

Might want to look into proviron if you choose Tren for its libido enhancing effects.

You could do that but on a decent amount of test it isn't a problem. I am on 550-600mg tren enanthate and 800mg of test enanthate weekly and I can assure you I have no problems with libido haha.

If you use enanthate I recommend NO LESS than 500mg weekly. For Tren ace i recommend around 75mg EOD.

[jomi822]

Tren will deactivate your dick very quickly. adding testosterone will only aid in the fat loss tren causes.

i am currently on a testE (600 a week) and tren acetate (75 eod) cycle and i am seeing decent results. I feel that i would be seeing even better results if i upped the testosterone.

my advice would be do not run tren without testosterone. along with adding muscle and strength gains of its own, testosterone is a "normalizing" and mood enhancement compound. No reason to run tren without test.

[LakeMountD]

Originally Posted by jomi822

Tren will deactivate your dick very quickly. adding testosterone will only aid in the fat loss tren causes.

i am currently on a testE (600 a week) and tren acetate (75 eod) cycle and i am seeing decent results. I feel that i would be seeing even better results if i upped the testosterone.

my advice would be do not run tren without testosterone. along with adding muscle and strength gains of its own, testosterone is a "normalizing" and mood enhancement compound. No reason to run tren without test.

Well it wouldn't necessarily "aid" in the fat loss per say. Tren binds to the AR MUCH stronger than test does and therefore it is somewhat competitive with test. Tren has 5 times the anabolic profile that test does as well so tren only would have more of a profound effect. But frankly it isn't something I would do based off libido, sense of well being, sleep, etc!

[Irish Cannon]

i am not necessarily against tren only cycles. im not going to bash someone if thats what they choose to do, same with deca only and some of the orals. however, i will advise you to not do so. like stated previously, some of the side effects from tren are unbearable without test. you could be the lucky one that doesnt have a problem with these sides, but why risk it. not to mention adding test will only make things better. when does the word "better" ever sound bad?