Is Nolvadex a must?

hongjai · 07-15-2006, 12:20 PM

I have just started my 10 week cycle as follow:

Frontload Andropen 275 550mg/week for first week 1100mg/week for 2 weeks, 825mg/week for 2 weeks, 550mg/week for the following weeks
EQ 400mg/week for first week, 600mg/week flat for 9 weeks
Anabolon 50mg/day for 10 weeks

I have been taking 20mg Nolvadex per day but it seems it supressed the andropen. The effect has not kicked off yet. 2 weeks pasted.

Should I stop using Nolvadex unless the sides comes out?

I have been using sus-250+deca+dbol cycle without Nolvadex and the gain is good. I just worried about when will the effect start.

Hope someone can advice me.

idunk42 · 07-15-2006, 12:42 PM

I would for sure drop the nolva while on cycle and only use it if necessary.

LakeMountD · 07-15-2006, 04:23 PM

You basically just have to gauge what effect the AAS having on you. You have two aromatising compounds and a progesterone producing compound. This can spell disaster in the gyno department. Personally I would use low dosages of Nolva, but I am more prone to gyno and have had some since puberty anyways. Often times nandrolone induced gyno is worse easier to get than that of aromatising compounds alone.

Mulletsoldier · 07-15-2006, 04:27 PM

You would be better off to pick up an Aromatose Inhibitor for prevention than Novladex. Your best bet is to choose something effective, Femara a.k.a Letrozole is highly effective for prevention even when run in low doses. If you do however induce progesterone Gyno, Novladex will not help you.

LakeMountD · 07-15-2006, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier

You would be better off to pick up an Aromatose Inhibitor for prevention than Novladex. Your best bet is to choose something effective, Femara a.k.a Letrozole is highly effective for prevention even when run in low doses. If you do however induce progesterone Gyno, Novladex will not help you.

Nolva can be preventative (not for nandrolone related gyno), but for the aromatising compounds anyways.

The main problem with letro is the inhibition of gains.

Mulletsoldier · 07-15-2006, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by LakeMountD

Nolva can be preventative (not for nandrolone related gyno), but for the aromatising compounds anyways.

The main problem with letro is the inhibition of gains.

I have to say I would much rather have my gains diminish by 5lbs then the alternative. IMO, Letro is the best choice to keep estrogen low to prevent the best one can, and keep Caber on hand if the Nandro Gyno pops up.

**Jayhawkk** · 07-15-2006, 05:56 PM

Damn so 6-oxo and milk thistle won't cut it? haha :)

I Keep several on hand to use dependant of cycle and related symptoms. Is it nec.? No, you can not do PCT all together but is it smart? No. LMD and Mullet both are offering good advice and compliment each other based off the circumstances.

Twitch · 07-18-2006, 01:36 PM

id drop the nolvadex to 10mg ed..
as far as progesterone related gyno,not a big concern of mine..
progsterone is merely a part of a coordinated effort of hormones that must be present in order for gyno to occur. progesterone cannot be simply elevated and poof,here comes gyno. circulating estrogen must be present, which is the pathway through which most documented gyno occurs.
Prolactin, progesterone, GH, Estrogen, and IGF-1 are all stimulatory and act in and integrated fashion to initiate the sequence of events that is breast growth.
so nolvadex will be of benefit..can also use b6 or dostinex to keep prolactin levels in check