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Old 05-25-2006, 04:36 PM   #1
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Ok, a lot of people have posted in this section lately and they are too young or haven't been training long enough but it seems as though they will start using no matter what anyone says. I've decided it's times to go back and bring up some past threads about consequences regarding teens and AAS.

Teens who wanna use AAS READ!!

Are You Ready For Gear??

Best Age!!!

Eight Rules to Live by when Training with Anabolic Steroids (scroll down to number 5 on the list)

It's been said time and time again to wait until you are old enough. Unfortunately I cannot find information I was looking for but this is good enough and will hopefully send a message to people that want to use and are not ready. I realize people always say "Oh, but Lee Priest started at 19 so why can't I?" and even though Cutler started at 18 both of these guys are only in their early 30's. It will be interesting to see what happens 10 years from now. Oh, and since everyone always uses Lee Priest as an example I will show some examples of mine. Ronnie Coleman was natural until he was 26 or 27. That gives plenty of time to learn about your body, build a great base and wait for your body to mature. Tom Prince never touched anything until he was 23. Tom built a great base at a weight of 240 pounds with an 8% body fat before turning to the dark side.

I hope this thread or the threads I posted will become stickies, we need to keep educating everyone about steroids. Steroids can be awesome if you know your stuff, but if not they can come back and take everything from you. If anyone else has other threads or more information please post it in here. Thank you...
 
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Old 05-25-2006, 04:52 PM   #2
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Awesome! Great post Bro!
 
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Old 05-25-2006, 05:17 PM   #3
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Nice post bro
 
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Old 05-25-2006, 05:34 PM   #4
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a great reminder as per the recent posts!
 
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Old 05-25-2006, 05:55 PM   #5
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Great post Diesel. They need a reminder.
 
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Old 05-25-2006, 09:44 PM   #6
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Fully agree DIESEL! Great post bro!
 
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Old 05-25-2006, 10:42 PM   #7
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Nice post D, very insightful if I do say so.
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Old 05-25-2006, 10:47 PM   #8
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ive noticed this as well... guess all you can do is try to point them in the right direction but what can you do.. gets to the point i just avoid the thread all together....anyways...

Anabolic steroids promote strength gain, muscle synthesis, and increased metabolic capacity. Their responsible, moderate use improves athletic performance, cosmetic appearance, and perceived social opportunity and self-esteem. However, anabolics achieve their effects by perturbing the human endocrine system, a complex feedback mechanism of glands and organs that are, in healthy and youthful persons, in an exquisite state of natural balance. Compounds like anabolic steroids that alter this balance are appropriate for use only by mature, well-trained athletes who understand these drugs, their risks and their benefits. Except in the case of prospective users of clear promise for national or international ranking in a sport, realistically hopeful for the kinds of benefits such ranking confers, the following should be characteristic of anyone, of any age, prior to the addition of anabolic steroids to a training regime:


1. PHYSICAL MATURITY. Anabolics can, through either direct or indirect effects, cause premature closure of the epiphyseal plates (growth plates) at the end of bone, an irreversible effect that may result in permanently shorter stature than the athlete would otherwise achieve. Therefore, the athlete should have reached full physical stature and maturity of the skeleton before contemplating anabolic use. In most cases, full stature is not reached until the very late teens and, in many cases, development of both long skeletal bones and joint assemblies (hips and shoulders) continues into the early 20's, development of the larynx (voice box) into the mid-20’s.


2. SIGNIFICANT MATURE MUSCULARITY. Anabolics have poor effect, or transitory effect, on athletes in mediocre condition; in addition, their tendency to boost muscle strength ahead of the strength of supporting tendons and ligaments can lead to debilitating injury in athletes without substantial prior training. Therefore, the athlete should have accumulated a significant amount of mature muscle mass and tendon strength through a dedicated program of resistance training prior to beginning anabolic use. Recognizing that there is substantial individual variability in training efficiency and effects, a minimum of 3 years, perhaps as many as 7, of dedicated weight training is required to achieve this necessary physical foundation, on which anabolics can be used safely and to best effect.


3. THOROUGH KNOWLEDGE. Anabolics are not a substitute for proper technique or applied knowledge of the basics of exercise physiology. Therefore, the athlete considering the use of anabolics should have a very thorough and detailed knowledge of lifting technique, dietary practice, recuperative processes, and hormonal and nonhormonal supplementation, and should if possible prepare for the use of anabolics under the guidance of a trusted mentor who has mastered these issues. In particular, the athlete should have an excellent understanding of the uses, effects, and risk profiles of anabolics, and should be thoroughly conversant with the kinds of ancillary agents that minimize side-effects and speed post-cycle recovery. Recognizing that there is substantial individual variability in the pace at which this knowledge is acquired, at least a year of arduous study and reading is necessary to understand anabolics and post-cycle recovery, and at least 4 years of practice is required to establish the requisite knowledge base of lifting technique, recuperation, and diet.


4. PSYCHOLOGICAL MATURITY. Anabolic steroids can have marked effect on mood and disposition, either during the cycle of active use, or its aftermath. Therefore, the athlete considering the use of anabolics should have the psychological health and maturity that will enable him or her to use anabolics with minimal social, psychological, and legal risk to both him/herself and his/her network of partners and collaborators. In addition, the athlete should be firm enough in purpose and balanced enough in approach to understand not only how and when to initiate use of anabolics, but how and when to curtail or abandon use safely should that need arise.


The use of anabolic steroids is unwise for persons who have not satisfied these prerequisites, though exceptions may be made in cases of very unusual athletic promise. While not a function of mere calendar age per se, it is unarguable that, on average, the likelihood that these conditions will have been met increases as the age of the prospective anabolic user increases.


For the reasons adduced above, the following statement of consensus opinion is made:

Allowing for substantial individual variability, and with the exception of cases of truly outstanding athletic promise, the athlete considering the use of anabolics should be socially and physically mature, psychologically healthy, and should have completed 4 to 7 years of dedicated, mentored training in strength/endurance athletics and study in lifting technique, dietary practices, recuperation skills and supplementation. In most cases, the athlete will have reached the age of 21 before these prerequisites are in place, recognizing that many athletes will not have achieved the necessary experience, physical maturity, and psychic balance until their mid-20's or even later.



There are many side effects, some of which are specific to teen users:

Acne
Possible increase in Male Pattern Baldness
Gynecomastia (bitch tits)
Stunted growth (premature closing of growth plates - not only affects height, but also other long bones such as collar bone)
Natural testosterone production supression (not ideal at such an important time for your endocrine system)
Risk of injury (anabolics normally provide an increase in strength. Muscles react more quickly than tendons. This can be an issue even for veteran lifters - potentially much more of a problem for novice trainers who's form is still likely to be poor)
Possible liver stress with alkylated steroids
Possible sexual dysfunction
 
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Old 05-26-2006, 12:14 AM   #9
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Great post guys.
 
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Old 05-26-2006, 01:03 AM   #10
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You know I am suprised to see this here on the website. That is some good **** fellas. Personally I am completely against the juice, mainly because I have to play against or throw against guys that are taking it. But kids need to learn that that **** is not the only road to success. People see steroids as the only path to growth but at a young age your body is so full of growth there is no need to dabble in **** that will have life long consequences.
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Old 05-26-2006, 06:26 AM   #11
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Great post! The most disturbing part is that most don't want to do ANY research themselves, but want to be told what to do. They don't care why they should do it, they want the easiest road possible. Shows a lot about their dedication. In most of their cases they wont benefit fully because they haven't the slightest idea what they're doing.
 
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Old 05-26-2006, 12:43 PM   #12
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Great post! The most disturbing part is that most don't want to do ANY research themselves, but want to be told what to do. They don't care why they should do it, they want the easiest road possible. Shows a lot about their dedication. In most of their cases they wont benefit fully because they haven't the slightest idea what they're doing.
I've always felt that if your serious about BB'ing and want to take things far you will want to learn as much about your body as possible before touching any type of AAS. Aside from all the risks involved with starting too young if you can get contest prep, training and bulking diets all down pat then once you do touch gear it's just gona be that much better.
 
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Old 05-26-2006, 12:54 PM   #13
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Very good thread. Good job.

I think this should be a sticky. Not that anyone seems to read those anyway...
 
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