[Andrew]

Hey ppl. This summer I'm going to go back to my home country Ukraine... and I was thinking of doing a cycle there consisting of test + dbol/winny + tren. Also, since all these chemicals are a lot cheaper there I thought of maybe throwing in some GH. I contacted my friend there and he found out the price of it for me which is about 50$ US for 200 iu, which I think is quiet cheap. I'm thinking of doing around 8 iu nightly. I was wondering if anyone here used it and got decent results from it and if it's worth for me to try it out. Another thing.. I need to make sure that product is not of a biological form so I'm going to ask my buddy to find that out for me. As far as I know, they don't make that form anymore but who knows.. Also I was wondering what the average price of growth hormone is in Canada and the States... If anyone could reply I'll be glad..

[Diesel]

dude, your 19...wait till your atleast 21 and that cycle is way too serious for a novice

[BigBen]

DO NOT I REPEAT DO NOT USE GH! You are entirely to young for growth hormone, and for drugs man! Your body is probably producing 15-20 mg test a day already. have u ever ran a cycle bro?

Also that is entirely to many drugs for one cycle man.

[robcardu]

if you`re really 19 ..you ****ing nuts buddy. dont use it, thats`it!!

[Palmetto]

Honestly, when will people learn? Start to early, have problems down the road. Is it really that hard to understand? Bro if you do this, you are just asking for trouble.

[EvilDumbell]

BigBen is right .. i took 56 iu nightly and ended up looking like Darryl Strawberry

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by Palmetto

Honestly, when will people learn? Start to early, have problems down the road. Is it really that hard to understand? Bro if you do this, you are just asking for trouble.

problem is there isnt much out there about waiting till your old enough...many articles have been posted in this section about waiting but for some reason none of them are stickies

[Palmetto]

It's a shame, it's our responsibility to educate these people who are just starting out on the correct diet, training and cardio aspects of this sport. It is also our repsonsibility to warn them about the potential dangers of this sport through steroids and substance abuse. I agree, maybe we should have a sticky outlining the potential hazards of not only steroids but of all performance enhancing drugs.

[big04pimpin]

Also the Sides from GH and just Test are way different. You do GH wrong, and feel that your in a hurry you can start making parts grow that you do not want to grow.

[Andrew]

Yea I think I'll have to put more thinking into that. I started cycling since 15 or 16 years old I think.. I know most of you probably think I'm nuts ( and I probably am lol). The reason why I wanted to do this one is because I was thinking of doing a level 1 show in the end of september and moving on to level 2.. Another thing is, I'm joining the army in september so I don't know if I'll be able to prepare properly for that show. After that, I'm probably gonna be done saucing for another 4 years ( that's how long my contract is with the army). Before all that, I'll first have to find out if they test for steroids, and if they do then I guess I won't be doing anything this summer.

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by Andrew

Before all that, I'll first have to find out if they test for steroids, and if they do then I guess I won't be doing anything this summer.

so what we said means nothing to you? You definately need to go to the doctor to get things checked out if you have really been cycling that long. Just because you feel fine doesn't mean something might be going on. I hope everythings alright because thats really really young to be messin around w/ gear.

[Zomb131]

Originally Posted by Andrew

Yea I think I'll have to put more thinking into that. I started cycling since 15 or 16 years old I think.. I know most of you probably think I'm nuts ( and I probably am lol). The reason why I wanted to do this one is because I was thinking of doing a level 1 show in the end of september and moving on to level 2.. Another thing is, I'm joining the army in september so I don't know if I'll be able to prepare properly for that show. After that, I'm probably gonna be done saucing for another 4 years ( that's how long my contract is with the army). Before all that, I'll first have to find out if they test for steroids, and if they do then I guess I won't be doing anything this summer.

They'll only test for gear if someone in your command suspects you of using. Using gear could get you kicked out with a bad conduct discharge (BCD) or a dishonorable. Also do some brig time since it is a controlled substance. Getting either is like a felony in the civilian world.

[mindstar]

gh needs 6 months for real growth...and I agree with everyone esle, you are setting yourself up for major problems up the road.

[Andrew]

Originally Posted by Diesel

so what we said means nothing to you? You definately need to go to the doctor to get things checked out if you have really been cycling that long. Just because you feel fine doesn't mean something might be going on. I hope everythings alright because thats really really young to be messin around w/ gear.

bro ofcourse things that you ppl say mean something to me. i do take your opinions into consideration. otherwise i wouldn't be here. also ive been seeing the doc lately pretty often. few months ago i had developed an anxiety disorder ( thats what you get for mixing sauce and recreational drugs together). that is being taken care of right now. my testosterone levels had just returned back to normal after 6 months ( used tribulus instead of a proper pct which didn't help to prevent the post cycle crash). other than that everything is fine. my doc is well aware of what im doing and is helping me look after myself. i do indeed understand that at my age these chemicals could take their toll on my body and i am willing to try to take all the measures of precautions and all that...