[big_ox]

i was wondring did any one try using slin alone as a cycle and was it good
i know its a silly question but it came to my mind what can 2iu/day of slin do?

peace friends

[fog_hat1981]

Before I would feel comfortable giving you advice on slin I would like to see what you think it does for you...

An actual detailed answer would be best - not some 2 word nonsense....

[mindstar]

slin is the real deal man...read read read. And then read. I am way to chicken to do a slin cycle...and I haven't even read that much.

[Tonkin]

lol ye test it on you and see what happens if we see bad side affects we will just leave it and let u have the problems :).

[Lineski]

Originally Posted by big_ox

i was wondring did any one try using slin alone as a cycle and was it good
i know its a silly question but it came to my mind what can 2iu/day of slin do?

peace friends

Not that I spend much time in the anabolic forums but people take more than 2 iu's of slin. Most people start around a dose of 6-8 iu's per day and then gradually increase it to 10 iu's a day; which seems about standard. Slin acts as a shuttle hormone and will effectively send glycogen into your muscles, increasing your size and fullness. I believe the standard is somewhere around 8g's per IU of fast digesting carbs following injection, followed by a protein shake about a half hour later and then a whole food meal containg protein and carbs (no fats) after you peak and then another meal after the dose has worn off.

Honestly, I'm not claiming to be an expert but if you're asking questions like this, you have a lot more reading to do before even considering trying to cycle slin. I know guys who have done just slin, or slin and gh, and were very happy with their results, but they have taken every necessary precaution as well. It's not enough to have to just consider trying it out, you have to check out every necessary angle first. To be blunt, if you're asking these questions, you're not ready yet.

[fog_hat1981]

Why in the hell would you tell someone who has NOT demonstrated the knowledge of a compound they plan on taking the ins and outs "in a nutshell"? People like this take your one post and start injecting. Let's hope he comes back around and does his own research - when it comes to slin, you don't just ask HOW and expect to get a quick answer. It comes down to REALLY knowing your body etc long before you toy with the idea and you HAVE to understand all of its capapbilities.

[Lineski]

Originally Posted by fog_hat1981

Why in the hell would you tell someone who has NOT demonstrated the knowledge of a compound they plan on taking the ins and outs "in a nutshell"? People like this take your one post and start injecting. Let's hope he comes back around and does his own research - when it comes to slin, you don't just ask HOW and expect to get a quick answer. It comes down to REALLY knowing your body etc long before you toy with the idea and you HAVE to understand all of its capapbilities.

Excuse me? If you read my post fully, I clearly state that he's not ready for this kind of anabolic, but I wanted to do more than just brush him off and say "read, read, read" or something along those lines. I mentioned the information I did to show just how much is involved and how much knowledge you need before taking something so serious, and unless someone was a complete moron they would not just go by the brief explination I said. I also told him to do more research because he's clearly not ready and even stated that bluntly at the end, and I didn't even go into the different types of slin or carbohydrate sources to use or the exact times in which to do your post injection nutrition, what to eat with these meals, what is the proper distribution of macronutrients, etc... Don't get on my back because, as stated before, no one is stupid enough to just read what I posted and start injecting.

One last thought, he never stated in any way at all that he planned on taking it, he was just asking for thoughts on it.

[fog_hat1981]

I don't have a problem with your second paragraph. It is the first paragraph where you give him a basic rundown of how slin works and what most people do while using - though there are some misconceptions (though nothing major).

When this guys other posts are all over the board with misinformation about his current cylce, the use of ai's etc no one needs to give him ANY advice about slin other than what you stated in your original post's second paragraph.

People who hang out in steroid sections of boards aren't just doing so for the hell of it. They are almost always interested in running whatever they have questions about. Therefore, this guy needs to prove he understands things more fully (i.e. the use of ai's, his current cycle etc) long before anyone should give him a basic snapshot of slin use.

If he had posed his question with facts similar to what you originally posted in your first paragraph then he could have received much more advice. Unfortunately, he didn't and he has yet to explain his views, understanding and knowlege of the subject yet now we have given him basic advice that he could essentialy use to "get started."

[fog_hat1981]

Originally Posted by Lineski367

Don't get on my back because, as stated before, no one is stupid enough to just read what I posted and start injecting.

One last thought, he never stated in any way at all that he planned on taking it, he was just asking for thoughts on it.

Unfortunately, this is about the furthest from the actual truth as you can get. I too would HOPE the same things that you are implying are true. However, this is almost always the exception to the rule, not the norm.

[BigBen]

Originally Posted by Lineski367

Not that I spend much time in the anabolic forums but people take more than 2 iu's of slin. Most people start around a dose of 6-8 iu's per day and then gradually increase it to 10 iu's a day; which seems about standard. Slin acts as a shuttle hormone and will effectively send glycogen into your muscles, increasing your size and fullness. I believe the standard is somewhere around 8g's per IU of fast digesting carbs following injection, followed by a protein shake about a half hour later and then a whole food meal containg protein and carbs (no fats) after you peak and then another meal after the dose has worn off.

Honestly, I'm not claiming to be an expert but if you're asking questions like this, you have a lot more reading to do before even considering trying to cycle slin. I know guys who have done just slin, or slin and gh, and were very happy with their results, but they have taken every necessary precaution as well. It's not enough to have to just consider trying it out, you have to check out every necessary angle first. To be blunt, if you're asking these questions, you're not ready yet.

Good ass post bro, dont worry man brush them haters off.

Godbless

Ben

[big_ox]

it looks like people are fighting in here
for those who think that am gonna do a slin cycle .. hell no it was just a thought that came by .. fog hat dont get mad on lineski he said nothing that i wont find by reasearching what i was asking about was PERSONAL EXPERIENCE and about reasearching i had to do a 2years reasearching before i did my first cycle so dont worry i wont read a 10 lines answer and yell that i can do a slin cycle

[fog_hat1981]

Originally Posted by big_ox

it looks like people are fighting in here
for those who think that am gonna do a slin cycle .. hell no it was just a thought that came by .. fog hat dont get mad on lineski he said nothing that i wont find by reasearching what i was asking about was PERSONAL EXPERIENCE and about reasearching i had to do a 2years reasearching before i did my first cycle so dont worry i wont read a 10 lines answer and yell that i can do a slin cycle

Well, in that case, I would only say that Lineski's ideas are fine. However, in my personal experience I would tell someone to start their first few days at lower than 6-8 iu's - more like 4 for a day or two and then 6 for a day or two (you have to REALLY know your body for slin to be safe and effective). Next, your carbs can be slow or fast digesting and your protein should be taken with the carbs all in the same meal/shake. Also, the first half of the meal/shake needs to be consumed immediately after the shot, then 15 minutes later drink another 1/4 of the mix and the last 1/4 after another 15 minutes. As for the advice about 8g per iu, this is extremely subjectice (however, it does error on the side of safety) as I am currently running 10iu's pwo with only 40grams of protein and 25 grams of carbs mainly because I am in preparation for a contest (trust me though - you have to know your body very well and I have worked my way down to this level very slowly and carefully). Your next meal (15 minutes later - one hour after your shot) should come from low GI carbs and extremely lean sources of protein. All other meals follow as normal (which should typically be spaced about 3 hours apart anyway). In addition, the type of insulin is also a VERY large indicator of what type of window you are creating for nutrient uptake - some are slow acting and some are much much faster acting.

Lastly, insulin can be used before your first real meal of the day. However, the protein content has to be much higher and the carbs can be dropped just a bit. There are more details to both this scenario and the pwo scenario but that is all you should need for "knowledge" purposes. Remember that no matter when or how much slin you take you are potentially setting yourself up for increased odds of long term insulin supplementation dependence (maybe not now but in the future).

You have to realize that I was not trying to give you a hard time but this type of knowledge shouldn't just be shared because someone asks - some people will try anything just to see for themselves - and that my friend can be VERY DANGEROUS...

[Lineski]

Fog_hat, glad to see all's taken care of and you made some good points, especially about starting at the higher dose of carbs post-injection as I stated but then slowly lowering that if cutting, knowing what your window looks like based on the type of slin you're using, and the most important thing: knowing your body. Glad to also hear about your own personal experiences and I wish you the best of luck with your prep. Take care, bro.