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Old 03-10-2006, 10:45 AM   #1
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I recently heard that using testosterone has an effect(whther mild or not) illiciting hyperplasia of the muscle fibres, which basically means permanent gains? Is this true based on your experience with this compound?

Also, does deca, anadrol 50, primobolan and equipoise and d'bol cause the same effect, apart from causing hypertrophy of the muscle?

Basically, i have a feeling that deca has the effect of causing the splitting of muscle fibres because my friend who was skinny before he started bodybuilding ended up much larger permanently after using deca.I'm speaking about permanent gains because he has since stopped bodybuilding and roids for 5 years and his arms are approximately 3 inches larger than before he started.
 
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Old 03-11-2006, 11:18 AM   #2
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Why would any steroid gains not be permanant? The only times when they aren't permanant are:

1. Poor PCT
2. Poor diet post-cycle
3. You're so friggin HUGE that you're way above your genetic potential
4. The little bit of water held is lost, but still leaves the new muscle behind

That said, I don't know why any gains would not be permanant.
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Old 03-11-2006, 12:45 PM   #3
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Why would any steroid gains not be permanant? The only times when they aren't permanant are:

1. Poor PCT
2. Poor diet post-cycle
3. You're so friggin HUGE that you're way above your genetic potential
4. The little bit of water held is lost, but still leaves the new muscle behind

That said, I don't know why any gains would not be permanant.

Hot diggity-dog. Hi-cal is in da house.
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Old 03-11-2006, 01:02 PM   #4
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Oh, man. You're my boy, Ghosting. But I might leave 'cause of that avatar, Ghosting. That's just wrong.
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Old 03-11-2006, 01:19 PM   #5
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LOL. Im not religous, so I thought it was funny, but ill remove it if you find it offensive.
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Old 03-11-2006, 01:24 PM   #6
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Thanks, bro. I just have a problem with blasphemy, since the Bible says it's the only sin that is not forgivable. Thanks for the respect. That's why I like you. You're an easy going dude, but very serious about business.
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so you two gonna kiss or what? jeeeeeze :p
 
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Old 03-11-2006, 03:20 PM   #8
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so you two gonna kiss or what? jeeeeeze :p

LOL. I like Hi-cal, he has helped me numerous times, answered numerous questions, and always provided me with the best service far greater than anyone, no matter what I have asked, he has always answered it. How was that for brown nosing?
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Old 03-11-2006, 04:22 PM   #9
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LOL. I like Hi-cal, he has helped me numerous times, answered numerous questions, and always provided me with the best service far greater than anyone, no matter what I have asked, he has always answered it. How was that for brown nosing?
Huh, you know him from another board or something, if so which one if I may ask?
 
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Old 03-11-2006, 04:33 PM   #10
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Huh, you know him from another board or something, if so which one if I may ask?

He is at Ironmass.com, anabolicminds.com. and BB.com. Probably more, those are other places I visit.
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He is at Ironmass.com, anabolicminds.com. and BB.com. Probably more, those are other places I visit.
I only visit this one and a dutch one (although it's dutch and our country is very little there's some good info there).But I need to get to others aswell. But just one at a time, can you recommend me one? The thing with a new board is, you don't know people and it's harder to judge posts Or maybe it's good actully, cuz you need to be really objective, but it's just easy to know the people which know their stuff.
 
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Old 03-11-2006, 05:10 PM   #12
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IM is basically full of idiots, so I get no info there. AM, I go there for the news section. BB is full of trolls, idiots, and wrong info, but there are some extremely smart guys there, so you can pick up good info there.
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Old 03-12-2006, 09:28 AM   #13
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listen to them michael.. the are all right!
 
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