How many and how much roids?

BiGGDieseL · 03-08-2006, 02:04 PM

Hello, hopefully someone can help me out.

I've been training for 6 years (3 years seriously) and use a cycle once a year during 8 to 10 weeks.
I'm 6ft2, wheigh 205 pounds (100kg) at 15% bodyfat.
My nutrition is good, I sleep enough,...

But what frustrates me I wanna go to that next level, if you know what I mean.
I wanna be freakier, cause i'm staying at the same level for 2 years now.
During my cycle I go up and I can keep most of it. but isn't it better to do 2 cycles a year for 6 weeks each?
Wouldn't I gain much more muscle?

And does Clenbut. really works for losing fat?

Thx guys in advance.

train like an animal to build the beast!!!

Tapout1 · 03-08-2006, 08:43 PM

You should run 3 10 week cycles a year. 750 test 400deca 25mg dbol.

This way you will always keep growing.

Clen works along with diet and cardio, donot relay on it to do everything for you.

massivedelts · 03-13-2006, 04:40 AM

You wanna get big!!? really?? do you have the income to do so?it requires money and time,no half steps,no cutting corners...DIET first make sure its in check 5,000 cals a day,TRAINING better be intense and progressive,REST minimum 8hrs with naps when you can,GEAR ........DRUM ROLL...get on 750 mgs per week of test enanthate get on stay on DO NOT COME OFF,use hcg accordingly,40 mgs D-bol a day 4 weeks on 4 weeks off 4 weeks on after 12 weeks go to clinic get chem screens done make sure liver values are good trade D-bol for Var and repeat 4weeks on 4weeks off 4 weeks on after 12 weeks go to clinic get chem screens done everything checks out trade Var in for D-bol and repeat. do this for 8 mos. you'll be big.Do a cutter for 12 weeks and you'll finish up in one year significantly larger

**roccodart440** · 03-13-2006, 02:49 PM

Clen works for burning fat but is badfor your heart. HWat cycles have you done?

BiGGDieseL · 03-14-2006, 09:07 AM

6 cycles in 7 year
Mostly 400mg deca or boldane with 500 mg sustanon and 2 winnys a week, for 8 weeks
One time dianabol but don't like pills

**roccodart440** · 03-15-2006, 10:24 AM

Test cyp 500 and var 40mg

massivedelts · 03-15-2006, 07:48 PM

500 mgs of test a week is not much over a hrt dosage,500 mgs of test per week for 10-12 weeks is a beginners cycle and var is nice to bridge with but not a big mass builder.I assumed you wanted long term gains,like building a house you gotta build a good foundation first

**roccodart440** · 03-16-2006, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by massivedelts

500 mgs of test a week is not much over a hrt dosage,500 mgs of test per week for 10-12 weeks is a beginners cycle and var is nice to bridge with but not a big mass builder.I assumed you wanted long term gains,like building a house you gotta build a good foundation first

YOu are an idiot.

Do you know anything about TRT? Obviosly not. Standard protocol for TRT if they use an injectable is 100mg per week of test cyp or test enanth. Blood levels are then re-assessed and lowerd or raised accordingly. Many time the dose is lowered. Total test is measured for this re-assessment and the docs goal is to have you falling into the top 25 percentile of the range.

400-500 is a beginners cycle but many "smart users" use other compounds in future cycles added to that 500 test. THe reason 1st cycle should be test is to assess your body's reaction to it because test should be the base for all cycles.

Var is great for strength gains it isn't as good for size but that doesn't mean it is useless. It is one of the only compounds i'd rec for a 1st cycle if you feel you must stack. Size and strength have a olt to do with each other. Test and anavar work synergisticly if used in combonation.

fallen · 03-16-2006, 04:15 PM

hey Bigg main thing is to learn as much as possible and when you think you know everything there is learn some more. Some people will tell you this is the only way to do it but they are not you so learn as much as possible. Something i was told a long time ago was...

If you can't answer these questions without searching for the answers then you are not ready.
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**roccodart440** · 03-16-2006, 08:26 PM

Great post

I'll add a couple more question

WHat does iu stand for and what does it measure?
WHat is hcg and how do you constitute it?
WHat is PCT?

Tapout1 · 03-16-2006, 11:25 PM

Great post fallen.