Var only PCT

**mindstar** · 03-08-2006, 01:06 AM

Is Nolva a definite need for a var only cycle or can someone use a product like 6-oxo instead? It's a debate I'm having...

I say Nolva for the 40/40/20/20...what do you all think?

**roccodart440** · 03-08-2006, 12:04 PM

[quote=mindstar]Is Nolva a definite need for a var only cycle yes

can someone use a product like 6-oxo instead? no

I say Nolva for the 40/40/20/20...what do you all think? yes[/QUOTE

Tapout1 · 03-08-2006, 07:45 PM

agreed!

Michael88 · 03-10-2006, 09:48 AM

haha, i don't think you even need a PCT for a var only cycle.By the way, what was your dosage and length of the cycle?

**roccodart440** · 03-10-2006, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael88

haha, i don't think you even need a PCT for a var only cycle.By the way, what was your dosage and length of the cycle?

That's because your are an idiot. Advise like that will fuck somebody up. Have you ever used var? I have. It's suppressive at any dose. 15mg or less can be used as a bridge between cycles because the suppression is low enough at that dose that the nolva and clomid or one of the two can over compensate for the HPTA shut down it is causeing.

Anavar shut down is very dose dependant as is it's liver toxicity. 40mg in the make is minimum. 50-80 is the medical dose for males used to treat AIDS patiets with wasting disiese. 40-100mg is the typical AAS users dose. Many people I know that are doing a var only cycle are not only doing a standard PCt but adding small doses of HCG to the reginen.

front_row · 03-10-2006, 03:39 PM

would nolva alone be enough though? I guess the shutdown would depend on the length and strength of the cycle?

**roccodart440** · 03-10-2006, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by front_row

would nolva alone be enough though? I guess the shutdown would depend on the length and strength of the cycle?

yes

40/40/20/20 or 40/30/20/10 if under 40mgED don't forget if you feel like you ned it you can extend nolva further than 4 weeks at 10-20mg if you want.

Twitch · 03-11-2006, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by roccodart440

That's because your are an idiot. Advise like that will fuck somebody up. .

BOOYAA..

**mindstar** · 03-11-2006, 06:07 PM

Thanks for the answers guys...my buddy is going to run Var at 50mgED so the 40/40/20/20 is where he should be.

To buddy--> heh...I was right, told you so!

Another question, should he ramp up the var? he's got 25mg tabs...25ED for week one or just full bore for all weeks?

Twitch · 03-11-2006, 09:14 PM

no need to ramp up.
keep dose constant

**roccodart440** · 03-11-2006, 11:25 PM

If he has 25 tabs take them twice a day adn like twitch saaid just start at the full 50mg ED. Var has no sides to speak of at 50mg.

Don't forget you liver protection Var is liver toxic.

**mindstar** · 03-21-2006, 04:33 PM

one more question guys...

I've got access to both 20mg and 25mg Nolva tabs, would a 50/50/25/25 be worse than a 40/40/20/20? It's a bit of a cost savings, but I'm most concerned with health and maintaining gains...

**roccodart440** · 03-21-2006, 10:07 PM

I won't say indefinitly but I think the difference would be negligable.

**mindstar** · 03-22-2006, 02:13 PM

Thanks Rocco!