new to roids

grooms93 · 07-04-2009, 01:35 AM

Im about to get some roids and Im thinkin im going to dbol to get me started..i know its a really toxic oral steroid, but thats what I chose for cost and stuff. Im really new to juicing though. How exacly do I go about doing it..I know I take say 15mg a day on the cycle, but what is PCT...and how do i successfuly get off a cycle.

**Freak** · 07-04-2009, 04:43 AM

Well the fact that you call them roids scares me. Please dispose of your supply and READ! and you probably need to train and diet longer because you probably haven't lifted very long either. Drugs are not to be taken lightly. Be responsible and educated.

F-111 · 07-04-2009, 07:14 AM

1. oral only = bad
2. 15mg is a wacked out dose
3. Anabolic steroids....say it with me
4. You obviously don't know what you are doing with these compounds, kudos for askig for advice but this suggestion is a complete waste of time and money, let alone the effects it can have on your health.
5. Research then come back

grooms93 · 07-05-2009, 01:28 AM

I have lifted for three years now. Im really lite but really strong..like I weigh 155 and max 270. Whats wrong with saying just roids, juice, ect. I think everyone knows your talking about steroids..Im just curious about a good starting cycle...so I guess obviously not an oral alone..any suggestion?

F-111 · 07-05-2009, 02:49 AM

test e 500mg per week split into 250 m/th

dbol to kick if u want but its not needed. Personally id go without it to keep it simple.

nolva/clomid for pct

**Blitzkrieg** · 07-05-2009, 03:54 AM

Unless you're 4 feet tall and under 10% bf I wouldn't advise starting ANY cycle right now, the fact that you're 155 lbs after 3 years just shows that you need to get your diet straight and learn more about the nutrition aspect of bodybuilding.

In other words: eat.

**HawaiianPride.** · 07-05-2009, 10:01 PM

Forget steroids even exist for another 3 years.

grooms93 · 07-06-2009, 12:10 AM

Thanks for the input. But considering I weighed 98 pounds 2 years ago...im not to worried about the whole Im not eating enough..you cant just assume stuff before you know what it was like starting out.

and Hawaian...why do you say that? My maxes are higher than yours and now I weigh 11 pounds less..

**Freak** · 07-06-2009, 12:18 AM

If you made that much progress then stay natural. AAS should be used to break the natural barrier and you are far from it. Keep up the good work.

**Blitzkrieg** · 07-06-2009, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grooms93

Thanks for the input. But considering I weighed 98 pounds 2 years ago...im not to worried about the whole Im not eating enough..you cant just assume stuff before you know what it was like starting out.

and Hawaian...why do you say that? My maxes are higher than yours and now I weigh 11 pounds less..

That is incredible progress dude. I guess I should have asked first before passing judgement. If you've been making such great gains naturally why would you want to start using now? you can grow a lot more without the use of AAS.

**islander** · 07-06-2009, 01:39 AM

how old are you?

**HawaiianPride.** · 07-06-2009, 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grooms93

Thanks for the input. But considering I weighed 98 pounds 2 years ago...im not to worried about the whole Im not eating enough..you cant just assume stuff before you know what it was like starting out.

and Hawaian...why do you say that? My maxes are higher than yours and now I weigh 11 pounds less..

Who cares how strong you are dude.. you don't know nearly enough to be messing around with such powerful substances. You can seriously damage yourself. You don't even know what a Post Cycle Therapy is...

Do yourself a huge favor, take my advice and DO SOME RESEARCH. You'll be very thankful you did in the end.

**HawaiianPride.** · 07-06-2009, 02:06 AM

Also.. the progress you made is pretty tremendous. Why in the world are you considering steroids. If everybody made those kinds of gains steroids wouldn't even exist!

grooms93 · 07-06-2009, 01:51 PM

Thanks for all the input guys. The whole reason Im wanting them is because im trying to get a lot stronger for fighting..so since this is a bodybuilding fourm i was wrong in comparing strengths.
Like ive made huge gains over the past years but this past 6 months has just been awful..its like im getting weaker. I havent gained weight in almost 3 months..im just trying to gain about ten pounds to get me to a solid 170-175..not much more than that. and I agree I need to do some research..but whats a good resource site?

thanks guys

**HawaiianPride.** · 07-06-2009, 01:54 PM

Well this site would be good to start at. There are tons of threads here about proper cycling and PCT dosages. Read the stickies..

Also talk to your coach I'm sure he's got some good advice. What kind of fighting are you doing? I just started getting into MMA at a gym down the street.

**HawaiianPride.** · 07-06-2009, 01:57 PM

http://www.bodybuildingdungeon.com/f...great-pct.html

http://www.bodybuildingdungeon.com/f...re-inject.html

http://www.bodybuildingdungeon.com/f...roid-side.html

http://www.bodybuildingdungeon.com/f...ions-know.html

http://www.bodybuildingdungeon.com/f...nyone-who.html

**projecthatch92** · 07-06-2009, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grooms93

Im about to get some roids and Im thinkin im going to dbol to get me started..i know its a really toxic oral steroid, but thats what I chose for cost and stuff. Im really new to juicing though. How exacly do I go about doing it..I know I take say 15mg a day on the cycle, but what is PCT...and how do i successfuly get off a cycle.

Not to jump on the band wagon or anything, but you shouldn't choose something you're putting into your body just for the "cost." Now, if you're talking about buying a new hose for your garden, and choose one over the other due to a lower cost, that's fine. But don't just get dbol because it's the cheapest. Once you screw something up, you won't be worried about the "cost" to get your body back to normal, you'll just want it done.

Now, as everyone else said, you made great progress. Maybe post up your diet and we can help you out with that.

Tyler Durden · 07-06-2009, 08:04 PM

Need some help here. I just my first cycle and started last wed. it was 1mg of eq and 1mg of test. now my leg has swollen up for some reason. anyone got any ideas why? and what to do about this strange occurance?

**Freak** · 07-06-2009, 08:37 PM

I have an idea... see a Dr. immediately and quit hijacking threads!

Tyler Durden · 07-06-2009, 08:42 PM

What is hijacking threads? and what do i say to the dr. I just cant tell him that i use for umentionable circumstances.

**Freak** · 07-06-2009, 08:48 PM

Sorry maybe that was harsh since you do only have 1 post but if you have a new subject; make a new thread.

Anyway, sounds like you might have an infection. Dr's aren't cops they don't care why you are on what nor will they turn you in, they can't due to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 other wise known as HIPAA.

But seriously go to a Dr. tell them what happened so they can treat you.

**HawaiianPride.** · 07-06-2009, 08:55 PM

You can ABSOLUTELY tell the doctor what happened. He's there for your health not to turn you in for doing something illegal. Take that advice and see one asap, this is your own body were talking about. This could be a serious issue.

Tyler Durden · 07-06-2009, 09:07 PM

I guess I am just trying to understand what happened. did i go to far in or was it the juice? did i puncture something. I pushed in, on the top of the quad. was that not the place. I have read that there are three main areas of "pushing" 1. ass, 2. quad, 3. delt. Where would you suggest?

**mindstar** · 07-06-2009, 10:09 PM

infections come from contaminants. either your gear is dirty or you ****ed up your injection process and it wasn't sterile. Happens to lots of guys, but take a look at this to see why you should go see a dr right meow.

and to the op, calling them roids is sort of like popping the collar on your pink polo shirt. Sure everyone know's what's up, but you sound like a douche. Just a heads up if you want to be taken seriously. I don't make the rules, I just relate them...

Chimera · 07-06-2009, 11:27 PM

I hope the 93 at the end of his username isn't relating to that he was born in 1993...

rmike · 07-07-2009, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyler Durden

I guess I am just trying to understand what happened. did i go to far in or was it the juice? did i puncture something. I pushed in, on the top of the quad. was that not the place. I have read that there are three main areas of "pushing" 1. ass, 2. quad, 3. delt. Where would you suggest?

listen bro, you probably have an abcess and you need to see a dr right away. like NOW! that coul lead to septicemia and when that turns into endocarditis you will either die or be on I>V> antibiotics for a long time. dont ask anyone for advice on that EXCEPT a dr. we cant help you. please go now, thankyou.

rmike · 07-07-2009, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grooms93

Thanks for all the input guys. The whole reason Im wanting them is because im trying to get a lot stronger for fighting..so since this is a bodybuilding fourm i was wrong in comparing strengths.
Like ive made huge gains over the past years but this past 6 months has just been awful..its like im getting weaker. I havent gained weight in almost 3 months..im just trying to gain about ten pounds to get me to a solid 170-175..not much more than that. and I agree I need to do some research..but whats a good resource site?

thanks guys

it sounds like you already made up your mind. listen to these guys, they know their stuff. i did some really dumb cycles when i was a kid and i wish i had the resources to do the research that you have at your disposal right now. this place is a great start.
just out of curiosity, why wouldnt you want to run test on your first cycle? that should be the foundation of it. ESPECIALLY on your first one. i would probably run that alone if i were you for now.
wait a minute, how old are you?

thats the 1 thing that worries me

grooms93 · 07-07-2009, 01:13 AM

Thanks for the help hawwian..and im mainly training BJJ. We do some thai and standup but its mostly ground work cuz all fights end on the ground..coach isnt the one to talk to about AAS because he is all about the motions and using someone elses power, hes not a user.

**Freak** · 07-07-2009, 01:24 AM

BJJ is great man! Keep with it. Rolling is great cardio.

**HawaiianPride.** · 07-07-2009, 02:26 AM

Nice man. My gym teaches MMA, BJJ, Take Down and No-Gi Grappling. What I meant earlier about asking your coach for advice was that you said that you wanted to get stronger for fighting and well I'm sure if you talk to your coach about that he will teach you some unique training methods that fighters do for getting their strength stronger.