UFC Fight Night 19

**HawaiianPride.** · 09-16-2009, 06:42 PM

7pm CT - 8pm ET/PT On Spike.

Don't forget to watch!

**Julio** · 09-16-2009, 06:48 PM

Good night tonight. followed up by the ultimate fighter 10.

**Freak** · 09-17-2009, 01:48 AM

This could have been a ppv! LOVED IT!!!!!!!!!!

**Medic08** · 09-17-2009, 10:42 AM

I had to work unitl 8 and freaking got a call at 7:45! So I didnt even get off until 9 so I missed every fight except the Diaz vs. Guallard. The first TUF episode was alright, looking foward to see how Kimbo does.

**Thomas_Rivera** · 09-17-2009, 05:57 PM

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I had to work unitl 8 and freaking got a call at 7:45! So I didnt even get off until 9 so I missed every fight except the Diaz vs. Guallard. The first TUF episode was alright, looking foward to see how Kimbo does.

First two fights were the most exciting.

**Medic08** · 09-17-2009, 06:17 PM

I heard credur vs Nate was a barn burner. What was the other one?

**Thomas_Rivera** · 09-17-2009, 06:31 PM

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I heard credur vs Nate was a barn burner. What was the other one?

Carlos Condit Vs. Jake Ellenberger

**mikeh40+** · 09-17-2009, 07:40 PM

Diaz bugs the crap out of me, but his submission holds are insane,, I agree, the first 2 fights were awesome!!
The fight on the ultimate fighter was a bloody one, did you see the dudes head at the end, how deep his gash was , ouch,,
i was looking forward to more footage of kimbo, but i suppose they will milk that for all its worth,
Who`s your pick, team rampage or Rashad,,, my pick is Team Rashad, the guy is much more intelligent than rampage

**HawaiianPride.** · 09-17-2009, 08:16 PM

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Diaz bugs the crap out of me, but his submission holds are insane,, I agree, the first 2 fights were awesome!!
The fight on the ultimate fighter was a bloody one, did you see the dudes head at the end, how deep his gash was , ouch,,
i was looking forward to more footage of kimbo, but i suppose they will milk that for all its worth,
Who`s your pick, team rampage or Rashad,,, my pick is Team Rashad, the guy is much more intelligent than rampage

Agreed Rashad will be a better coach, and yeah that fight was nasty. Probably the deepst most bloodiest gash I've ever seen in MMA.

**Freak** · 09-17-2009, 08:31 PM

Rashad is the better coach. He was an asst. wrestling coach if my memory serves me correctly. Rampage is arrogant.

Mike I can understand why Nate may come off wrong but you gotta love his laid back yet scrappy style. I love watching him fight. You know he is gonna put his heart out there every time.

**Thomas_Rivera** · 09-17-2009, 08:58 PM

Overall, I don't like the quality of heavyweights on the show, there are only a few that will do well.

When it comes to the heavyweights, Rashad has an advantage, he has two guys who he's trained with on his team and a pretty well rounded crew of guys.

**Medic08** · 09-17-2009, 09:28 PM

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Overall, I don't like the quality of heavyweights on the show, there are only a few that will do well.

When it comes to the heavyweights, Rashad has an advantage, he has two guys who he's trained with on his team and a pretty well rounded crew of guys.

Agreed. I cant stand rashad ass though so I'm pulling for Page.

**Thomas_Rivera** · 09-17-2009, 09:44 PM

Originally I didnt like rashad, but when it was announced that rampage was putting off the fight for MONTHS so he could do a movie, it pissed me off.

**Medic08** · 09-17-2009, 09:56 PM

I know that did piss me off too

**mikeh40+** · 09-17-2009, 10:28 PM

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Rashad is the better coach. He was an asst. wrestling coach if my memory serves me correctly. Rampage is arrogant.

Mike I can understand why Nate may come off wrong but you gotta love his laid back yet scrappy style. I love watching him fight. You know he is gonna put his heart out there every time.

oh yea i agree about nate, could be he reminds me of a young guy at work with his attitude, and the way he speaks, but the guy at work i could kick his as.ss , but nate would have me in a submission in about 1.5 seconds,, tap out!! respect for him def.. but every time i see him in the cage i`m like how the hell does this guy keep winning, then you watch his ground game and its totally 100% all out, i actually though he was going to loose last night, but the other dude got co.cky>> (damn we cant even spell coc.ky without this damn censor crap)

**Freak** · 09-18-2009, 12:58 AM

Yep he looks fragile but he can kick ass.

**islander** · 09-18-2009, 04:52 AM

I think that guy should ****ing sue wtf! His skull was fractured. He coudlve died. Its all cuase Dana was sitting there and it was the first episode you have to bet the ref wanted to stop it but didnt cuase someone was telling him not to. why didnt he kick the other guy off tho or try to? I think mabey he just had no flexibility or something he has so many opportunitys to get his heels on the guys hips but didnt even try, I thought hed do better. Going to be a good season i think! I love that Kimbo is doing it. Alot of people talked trash about him and said he shouldnt be aloud in the ufc and this proves he will work to be there. I dont mind Rashad I know everyone hates his show boating but its supposed to piss people off. I hated him when he was one the show and did for awhile but really respect what a good fighter he has turned out to be. He seemed more level headed then Rampage who is already trying to **** **** up but trying to pick the guy Rashad wanted first. Rampage is a funny guy but you can tell hes looney.

**mikeh40+** · 09-18-2009, 05:19 AM

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I think that guy should ****ing sue wtf! His skull was fractured. He coudlve died. Its all cuase Dana was sitting there and it was the first episode you have to bet the ref wanted to stop it but didnt cuase someone was telling him not to. why didnt he kick the other guy off tho or try to? I think mabey he just had no flexibility or something he has so many opportunitys to get his heels on the guys hips but didnt even try, I thought hed do better. Going to be a good season i think! I love that Kimbo is doing it. Alot of people talked trash about him and said he shouldnt be aloud in the ufc and this proves he will work to be there. I dont mind Rashad I know everyone hates his show boating but its supposed to piss people off. I hated him when he was one the show and did for awhile but really respect what a good fighter he has turned out to be. He seemed more level headed then Rampage who is already trying to **** **** up but trying to pick the guy Rashad wanted first. Rampage is a funny guy but you can tell hes looney.

i`m wondering if they knew just how bad his head was gashed in, dont suppose they can sue, major signing wavers to be doing what they are doing is my guess, even still, someone should have ended it, he was not even close to throwing a punch or have any control over the match,,,
I like watching Rampage fight, but he is making a fool out of himself, ego is one thing, but to just go off like he`s doing on the show just gets annoying,
rashad he just stands there with his smile and goads him on ,,, like kids having a pissing match.... looking forward to what kimbo can do... guys a brick chit house!

**islander** · 09-18-2009, 05:21 AM

Well he was bleeding really bad and the bell rung and he went to his corner im geussing the ref took a look then.

**mikeh40+** · 09-18-2009, 05:26 AM

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Well he was bleeding really bad and the bell rung and he went to his corner im geussing the ref took a look then.

oh yea he started bleeding like a stuck pig right off, damn it must have hurt like a mofo the next day,, went all the way down to the bone,,, chit!!

**islander** · 09-18-2009, 05:28 AM

head wounds bleeeeed but that sucker was deep I dunno how bad the fracture was but the guy at the end of the fight opend it up and said it was a frature so obvioslu could see the skull was split. Ya they would have to sign waivers up the ass.

**mikeh40+** · 09-18-2009, 05:48 AM

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head wounds bleeeeed but that sucker was deep I dunno how bad the fracture was but the guy at the end of the fight opend it up and said it was a frature so obvioslu could see the skull was split. Ya they would have to sign waivers up the ass.

yea at the end was when the showed the gash, i had to do a double take on how deep it was,, shiiaat would that sucka hurt in the morning,,,,

**Medic08** · 09-18-2009, 08:53 AM

Islander I know it looked like a lot of blood, but in all reality it wasnt. The head is very vascular so it bleeds very easily and a lot when it is cut. When you go and give blood you give a few pints at a time if your body feels up to it, and I guarntee that he didnt lose that much blood. The ammount of blood that he lost will be restored within 24 hours. Unless I missed something I didnt hear anything about a fractured skull. Why would you blame Dana though? That's is why they're doctors on staff for the fighters safety. The cut was pretty bad, and I'm kinda suprised they didnt stop it once I saw it at the end of the show, but like I said the dr.'s obviously thought it was ok. Everyone is always so quick to bash DW,lol.

**islander** · 09-18-2009, 02:10 PM

lol it wasnt the blood I was worried I know head wounds bleed it was at the end where I heard the word fractured, mabey he just said it may be fractured. If he thought that before then why didnt he stop it, mabey it went bone to the bone in the last round. I just hope they didnt get caught up in the hype and let something that coulda been bad go. They didnt keep him longer in his corner to check over better then the seconds they had.

**Freak** · 09-18-2009, 05:16 PM

They sign a waiver so can't really sue. The refs are chosen by the Nevada State Athletic Commission. Dana has gone off numerous times about refs that suck and he has said Mazzagotti is a very nice guy but he has not business reffing and its true. The Dr's should have been the ones to stop it if needed.

**Thomas_Rivera** · 09-18-2009, 05:50 PM

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lol it wasnt the blood I was worried I know head wounds bleed it was at the end where I heard the word fractured, mabey he just said it may be fractured. If he thought that before then why didnt he stop it, mabey it went bone to the bone in the last round. I just hope they didnt get caught up in the hype and let something that coulda been bad go. They didnt keep him longer in his corner to check over better then the seconds they had.

In a regulation amateur fight that would've been stopped, in a pro fight, probably not. In an elimination match, since the injury was stopped and then reopened it was continued. It wasn't a fracture though, the doctor said he was looking for a fracture since he could see right down to the bone.

It was rampages and Abes fault he got into that position. He should've pulled Madsen down into his guard and wait for the ref to stand them up.